Electrical field near infinite, charged rod

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field at a point near an infinitely long, charged rod, with a specific charge density defined as a function of position. The problem involves understanding the implications of the charge density and the setup of the electric field calculation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivation of the electric field from the charge density and the integration process involved. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the charge density variable and whether it needs to be calculated before determining the electric field's magnitude.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the initial solution approach, while others are exploring the implications of the charge density definition. There is an ongoing clarification about the role of the variable in the charge density and its impact on the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the charge density is assumed to be given for an infinite rod, contrasting it with a finite rod scenario where it would be calculated based on total charge and length.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the electric field at point ##P## if the distance from the center of an infinitely long, charged rod to point ##P## is ##a = 0.6m##; the charge density equals ##\lambda = -CX^2##, ##C=10^{-3}C/m^3##. Show all steps in finding the equation of the field, then find the magnitude and direction of ##\vec{E}## at point ##P##.

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My professor actually solved the first part of this problem during lecture:
<br /> dq = \lambda dx\\<br /> R = \sqrt{a^2+x^2}\\<br /> d\vec{E} = \frac{K dq}{R^2} = \frac{K \lambda dx}{a^2+x^2}\\<br /> cos\theta = \frac{a}{R} = \frac{a}{\sqrt{a^2+x^2}}\\<br /> d\vec{E}_{x} = d\vec{E}cos\theta = \frac{K \lambda dx}{a^2+x^2} \cdot \frac{a}{\sqrt{a^2+x^2}} = \frac{K \lambda a dx}{(a^2+x^2)^{3/2}}\\<br /> \vec{E}_{x} = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} d\vec{E}_{x} = K a \lambda \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \frac{dx}{(a^2+x^2)^{3/2}} = \frac{2K\lambda}{a}<br />

Based off of my understanding of the problem, and the solution above, I'd wager the direction will be perpendicular to the rod in question. What throws me off is ##\lambda##. I get it represents the charge density (i.e. charge per unit distance), but the way it was defined in the original question throws me off. Namely, what is ##X##? Assuming the problem was solved correctly, and ##X## represents some constant, I should be able to plug ##C##, ##X##, ##K##, and ##a## into ##\frac{2K(-CX^2)}{a}## to get the magnitude -- right?
 

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Hi kim_spitifre and welcome to PF.

The problem was solved correctly. Note that ##x## is not a constant but a variable. It represents the position along the rod of a length element ##dx## from an origin chosen such that point P is at coordinates {0, a}. Thus an element of length ##dx## on the rod bears charge ##dq=\lambda~dx##.
 
Thanks for the welcome & response! :) So, dq = lambda * dx (seems) to make sense, but I think I'm missing the bigger picture. Given the final equation in the above solution, am I expected to calculate lambda before I can solve for the magnitude? If so, I'm not sure how...
 
klm_spitifre said:
am I expected to calculate lambda before I can solve for the magnitude? If so, I'm not sure how...
No, you cannot calculate λ, it is supposed to be given because you have an infinite rod. If the rod were of finite length L and had total charg Q, then λ = Q/L. Do you see the difference?
 

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