Uniformly Magnetized Cylinder (B/H Field)

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the magnetic field in a uniformly magnetized cylinder, specifically focusing on the variables used in the integration process. Participants are examining the roles of the coordinates z and z' in the context of the problem.

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  • Participants are exploring the meaning of the coordinates z and z', questioning the integration limits and the implications of using different variables for the calculation of the magnetic field. There is a discussion on whether integrating with respect to z instead of z' leads to an accurate result.

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Some participants have provided insights into the reasoning behind the choice of variables and integration limits, while others are seeking alternative perspectives on the problem. The conversation is ongoing, with no clear consensus yet.

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There is a mention of a figure that is referenced but not provided, which may contain important information for understanding the problem setup. Additionally, participants are considering the implications of integrating over different variables and the assumptions that may affect the outcome.

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Can someone explain to me why he uses,

[tex](z' -z) \quad \text{ and } \quad dz'[/tex]

What is the meaning of the ' ?

When I did this question, I preformed the integration with the limits from 0 to L with the z in tact using a differential dz.

Is that wrong?
 

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He's using [itex]z[/itex] to be the coordinate of the point where we want to calculate the magnetic field, and using [itex]z'[/itex] to be the coordinate of the current loop. The distance from the current loop to the point is [itex]z - z'[/itex], but he probably skipped a step and used [itex]z' - z[/itex] instead because [itex](z-z')^2 = (z' - z)^2[/itex]. To consider the effects of all the loops from coordinate [itex]0[/itex] to [itex]L[/itex], you have to integrate w.r.t. [itex]z'[/itex] from [itex]0[/itex] to [itex]L[/itex].

If you've integrated w.r.t. [itex]z[/itex] from [itex]0[/itex] to [itex]L[/itex], then you've found the magnetic field at coordinate [itex]0[/itex], but you haven't found the magnetic field at a general coordinate [itex]z[/itex].
 
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He's using [itex]z[/itex] to be the coordinate of the point where we want to calculate the magnetic field, and using [itex]z'[/itex] to be the coordinate of the current loop. The distance from the current loop to the point is [itex]z - z'[/itex], but he probably skipped a step and used [itex]z' - z[/itex] instead because [itex](z-z')^2 = (z' - z)^2[/itex]. To consider the effects of all the loops from coordinate [itex]0[/itex] to [itex]L[/itex], you have to integrate w.r.t. [itex]z'[/itex] from [itex]0[/itex] to [itex]L[/itex].

If you've integrated w.r.t. [itex]z[/itex] from [itex]0[/itex] to [itex]L[/itex], then you've found the magnetic field at coordinate [itex]0[/itex], but you haven't found the magnetic field at a general coordinate [itex]z[/itex].

Is there any other way you can reason this problem out without using the z'?

I'd like to see the other perspectives if there are any.
 

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