Unit Vector polar in terms of cartesian

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between polar and Cartesian coordinates, specifically focusing on the unit vectors in two-dimensional polar coordinates. The original poster seeks to understand the expression for the unit vector θ{hat} in terms of Cartesian coordinates after establishing the expression for r{hat}.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the transformation of basis vectors between Cartesian and polar coordinates. The original poster expresses uncertainty about deriving the expression for θ{hat} and seeks guidance on how to begin. Others suggest methods for approaching the problem, including differentiation of Cartesian coordinates with respect to polar coordinates.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various attempts to clarify the relationship between the unit vectors and how to derive them. Some participants provide hints and suggest methods without reaching a consensus on the best approach. The original poster acknowledges confusion but also indicates progress in understanding.

Contextual Notes

There is a note regarding the notation used for unit vectors, emphasizing the importance of proper representation in the discussion. The original poster also mentions a lack of guidance in their textbook, indicating potential constraints in available resources.

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Homework Statement



Prove that the unit vector r{hat} of two-dimensional polar coordinates is equal to r{hat}= x{hat}cosθ + y{hat}sinθ and find the corresponding expression for θ{hat}.

all I need is the last part... I'm just not sure what θ{hat} is? How do I go about doing this? Nothing in my book even hints at how to do this.

Homework Equations


x = r cos(theta)
y = r sin(theta)
r = sqrt(x^2 + y^2)
theta = arctan(y/x)

The Attempt at a Solution



I really just need help getting started... I've been staring at this for over an hour which I know is sad but r{hat} is significantly easier than theta{hat}.
 
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How did you do the first bit?
What would be the analogous method for the second bit?
You are not asked to prove it, just write it down.

note:
[itex]\text{\hat{a}} \rightarrow \hat{a}[/itex] ... rather than a{hat}.

(welcome to PF)
 
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I'm not sure if this will help you, but the general form of the transformation of a basis vector is:

[tex]\vec{e}_{\bar{\nu}}=\sum_{\mu=1}^n \frac{ \partial x^\mu }{ \partial x^{\bar{\nu}}}\vec{e_\mu}[/tex]

where n is the number of dimensions (in this case two). xμ represents the Cartesian coordinates x and y (i.e. x1=x, x2=y). xν (with a bar over it - this distinguishes between Cartesian and polar coordinates) represents the polar coordinates r and θ.

What you need to do is differentiate the Cartesian coordinates x and y with respect to r and θ (i.e. dx/dr, dx/dθ, dy/dr, and dy/dθ). When you sum the Cartesian basis vectors e1=(1,0) and e2=(0,1) times the appropriate values, you'll get basis vectors for r and θ.
 
Could someone give me a hint on the first part of this? Because I can derive it - that is just simple trigonometry - but I can't figure out how to concretely prove that [itex]\hat{r}= \hat{x}cosθ + \hat{y}sinθ[/itex]

Edit: I'm thinking illustrate that [itex]\vec{r} = r\hat{r}[/itex] in polar and then showing that in Cartesian [itex]\vec{r} = \hat{x}cos\phi +\hat{y}sin\phi[/itex]

Edit2: Nope, I'm confused again.. I think elfmotat is correct, but I don't quite understand his explanation.

Edit3: nevermind - I got it.
 
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