Unitary Operator: Proof & Counterexample

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The discussion revolves around the properties of unitary operators in the context of linear operators on finite-dimensional inner product spaces. The original poster questions whether a linear operator that preserves norms for some orthonormal basis must be unitary, prompting exploration of definitions and counterexamples.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the definition of unitary operators and the significance of the phrase "some orthonormal basis." There is a focus on whether the preservation of norms for a subset of vectors implies the same for all vectors in the space.

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Participants are actively engaging with the question, exploring the distinction between different orthonormal bases and discussing potential counterexamples. Some have proposed specific examples to illustrate their points, while others express confusion about the implications of the definitions.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the interpretation of the problem statement, particularly the phrase "for all x in some orthonormal basis for V." Participants are considering how to construct a counterexample that meets the criteria without being unitary.

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Here's the definition.
Let T be a linear operator on a finite-dimensional inner product space V. If \|\vec{T(x)}\| = \|\vec{x}\| \\ for all x in V, we call T a unitary operator.
Let U be a linear operator on a finite-dimensional inner product space V. If \|\vec{U(x)}\| = \|\vec{x}\| \\ for all x in some orthonormal basis for V, must U be unitary? Justify your answer with a proof or a counterexample.

The question is asking about for all x in some orthornormal basis for V. Isn't that the same as for all x in V?
 
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Not at all. It says "some orthonormal basis for V". It doesn't say "for all orthonormal bases for V". Think counterexample.
 
Dick said:
Not at all. It says "some orthonormal basis for V". It doesn't say "for all orthonormal bases for V". Think counterexample.

Doesn't a basis generate all of V, though?
 
Shackleford said:
Doesn't a basis generate all of V, though?

Yes, a basis generates V. But ||U(a)||=||a|| and ||U(b)||=||b|| doesn't imply that ||U(a+b)||=||a+b||.
 
Dick said:
Yes, a basis generates V. But ||U(a)||=||a|| and ||U(b)||=||b|| doesn't imply that ||U(a+b)||=||a+b||.

I think the question is confusing me. I interpret "for all x in some orthornormal basis for V" as meaning for every linear combination x of the basis.

What kind of counterexample am I looking for? Just some orthonormal basis that's not unitary?
 
Shackleford said:
I think the question is confusing me. I interpret "for all x in some orthornormal basis for V" as meaning for every linear combination x of the basis.

What kind of counterexample am I looking for? Just some orthonormal basis that's not unitary?

Pick ANY orthonormal basis. Call it {e_1,e_2,...,e_n}. You want to define U somehow. The only condition that U has to satisfy is that ||U(e_i)||=1 for 1<=i<=n.
 
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Dick said:
Pick ANY orthonormal basis. Call it {e_1,e_2,...,e_n}. You want to define U somehow. The only condition that U has to satisfy is that ||U(e_i)||=1 for 1<=i<=n.

How about I take the standard basis for R2 and define

T(x1, x2) = (x1 - x2, 0).

T(1,0) = (1,0); ||T(e1)||= 1
T(0,1) = (-1,0); ||T(e2)||= 1

T(1,1) = (0,0); ||T(e1 + e2)||= 0
 
Shackleford said:
How about I take the standard basis for R2 and define

T(x1, x2) = (x1 - x2, 0).

T(1,0) = (1,0); ||T(e1)||= 1
T(0,1) = (-1,0); ||T(e2)||= 1

T(1,1) = (0,0); ||T(e1 + e2)||= 0

Looks good to me!
 
Dick said:
Looks good to me!

Thanks!

I have another question. I didn't understand property #5. Why does it sum over every entry, not just the diagonal?

http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/TraceOfAMatrix.html
 
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Thanks!

I have another question. I didn't understand property #5. Why does it sum over every entry, not just the diagonal?

http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/TraceOfAMatrix.html

Use sigma notation to write out the product AA*, then take the trace. It just works out that way.
 
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