Unleashing Solar Energy: The Potential of Mirrored Circles and Solar Panels

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the feasibility of using mirrored circles in conjunction with solar panels to enhance solar energy capture and efficiency. Participants explore theoretical concepts related to energy absorption and reflection, as well as the economic viability of solar technology.

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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the economic viability of solar panels, suggesting that their output is too low to be practical.
  • Another participant challenges this assertion, emphasizing the need for scientific sources to support claims about solar energy economics.
  • There is a proposal to use mirrors in a perfect circle to reflect solar energy indefinitely while also absorbing it with solar panels.
  • Some participants argue that energy absorbed by solar panels cannot be reflected back, questioning the feasibility of the proposed setup.
  • A later reply suggests that using a repeater, similar to fiber optics, would not solve the issue, as it requires more energy input than it produces.
  • One participant introduces the concept of a Back Reflector to improve solar conversion efficiency, referencing external sources for further reading.
  • Another participant raises concerns about the environmental impact of such a solar energy system on Earth's temperature and sustainability.
  • There is a critique of the blockchain technology's energy consumption, questioning its alignment with green energy initiatives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the economic viability of solar panels and the proposed method of using mirrored circles. There is no consensus on the feasibility of the idea, and multiple competing views remain regarding the effectiveness and environmental implications of the discussed concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various assumptions about energy absorption and reflection, as well as the economic implications of solar technology and blockchain energy consumption. The discussion includes unresolved technical details and varying interpretations of the proposed methods.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring innovative solar energy solutions, those concerned with the environmental impact of technology, and participants in the blockchain and renewable energy sectors.

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The theory of circling solar panels in a Circle with mirrors in order to indefinitely reflect the solar energy while at the same time absorbing it through solar panels, Possible?
Now before i take a ton of beating I'm not a Physicist this thread was a google command away looking for a physicists. I am an entrepreneur from the Blockchain world and before that the IT world. Now with the Current World Economic Forum, green bonds and saving our planet conversations i would be interested in hearing 1 or possibly a few things from physicists.

While solar panels is a great invention it is really staggeringly uneconomic to use the output is simply to low for it to be a viable option.
Now for one of those kids that burned ants or at least imagined doing it as a kid i was thinking of the situation of placing mirrors in a perfect circle with solar panel films or the other way around a solar panel with a mirror film in a perfect circle.

Can I have the sandwich and eat it at the same time?
Would it be possible to harness the power of the sun while at the same time bouncing it indefinitely inside a circle or mirrors?
 
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entjan said:
Would it be possible to harness the power of the sun while at the same time bouncing it indefinitely inside a circle or mirrors?
No. The energy that's absorbed is not available to be reflected.
 
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Ibix said:
No. The energy that's absorbed is not available to be reflected.
Not even through using a repeater as in Fibre optics?
 
entjan said:
Not even through using a repeater as in Fibre optics?
A repeater requires energy input - more than the light it produces.

You cannot do what you want for the reason you've already identified. You cannot have your sandwich and also eat it.
 
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entjan said:
Summary:: The theory of circling solar panels in a Circle with mirrors in order to indefinitely reflect the solar energy while at the same time absorbing it through solar panels, Possible?

i was thinking of the situation of placing mirrors in a perfect circle with solar panel films or the other way around a solar panel with a mirror film in a perfect circle.
One technique that is used to increase the solar conversion efficiency of some types of solar cells is to use a Back Reflector to send light that makes it through the cell back into the cell. See for example:

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijp/2016/7390974/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1876610211019874
 
Are we going to talk about what this terrestrial oven contraption would do to Earth's temperature and the sustainability of life?

I guess, by the time all the animals and plants are dead and dessicated, we'll be able to consume sunlight directly through our skin.

:wink:
 
entjan said:
Summary:: The theory of circling solar panels in a Circle with mirrors in order to indefinitely reflect the solar energy while at the same time absorbing it through solar panels, Possible?

entrepreneur from the Blockchain world ... with the Current World Economic Forum, green bonds and saving our planet conversations
Blockchain uses hoards of electricity to mine - not sure if one can label that technology as being as green as one would like to think.

https://financialpost.com/technolog...rency mining,of electricity from Hydro-Québec.
According to the CER, Quebec received requests for about nine gigawatts of energy from cryptocurrency miners in 2018, representing an astonishing 24 per cent of Hydro-Québec’s total generating capacity.

Bitcoin is the most widespread cryptocurrency and according to the CER its mining consumes an estimated 71.12 terrawatt-hours per year globally — equal to 11 per cent of the electricity generated in Canada in 2016. The CER says an average Bitcoin transaction uses more electricity than a Canadian home does in a month.

In 2020, the cryptocurrency mining companies in Quebec consumed 0.6 terrawatt-hours of electricity from Hydro-Québec. When electricity from municipal networks is added, the consumption in 2020 was 1.2 terrawatt-hours, enough to power 70,000 residences in Quebec. In other words, those cryptocurrency mining companies consumed enough electricity to power all the homes in a fair-sized city.
 

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