Unraveling the Mysteries of Intensity vs Wavelength

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between intensity and wavelength in electromagnetic radiation, particularly focusing on the behavior of intensity beyond the visible light range. Participants explore concepts related to quantum mechanics, energy quantification, and the implications for understanding phenomena like the photoelectric effect.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the relationship between wavelength and intensity, questioning why intensity decreases after reaching a peak at the visible light range and its connection to energy quantification.
  • Another participant notes that obtaining ultraviolet light in quantum mechanics requires a minimal energy threshold, which is rarely met, leading to finite emission of ultraviolet radiation.
  • A follow-up question is posed about the rarity of achieving the necessary energy for ultraviolet light emission.
  • A participant mentions that if the average energy per particle is around 0.1 eV, then particles with energies of 3 eV or more are considered rare.
  • There is a clarification regarding the term "eV," with participants confirming that it stands for electron volt.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the reasons behind the decrease in intensity after the visible light range, and there are multiple competing views regarding the energy requirements for ultraviolet light emission.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the derivation of E=hf and the implications of energy quantification in relation to intensity and wavelength. There are unresolved questions regarding the conditions under which ultraviolet radiation is emitted.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals studying quantum mechanics, electromagnetic radiation, and the photoelectric effect, as well as those seeking clarification on the concepts of intensity and wavelength.

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I am really confused about this!
So people thought that as wavelength increases for electromagnetic radiation, intensity of radiation increases but this would mean that people would melt if exposed to any radiation higher than visible light. But then they did an experiment and they sketched the graph of the experiment which is the true graph of intensity vs wavelength.

I get everything up to this point but I would very much appreciate it if someone explains to my why intensity would decrease after the peak intensity at the visible light range? What does it have to do with quantification of energy? Also, what is the proper derivation of E=hf?
I really want to have a complete understanding of this because it is very important to understand Einsteins explanation of the photo electric effect and the the rest of quantum mechanics.

Thank you!
 
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To get ultraviolet light in quantum mechanics, you need some minimal amount of energy - the energy of a photon. This rarely happens, so the total energy emitted as ultraviolet radiation is finite.
In classical thermodynamics, this minimal amount is not required - you would expect that everything, everywhere, would emit a lot of ultraviolet radiation.
 
mfb said:
To get ultraviolet light in quantum mechanics, you need some minimal amount of energy - the energy of a photon. This rarely happens, so the total energy emitted as ultraviolet radiation is finite.

Why does it rarely happen?
 
If the average energy per particle is something like 0.1 eV , particles with an energy of 3 eV and more are rare.
(if you don't know eV: does not matter, just compare 3 and 0.1)
 
mfb said:
If the average energy per particle is something like 0.1 eV , particles with an energy of 3 eV and more are rare.
(if you don't know eV: does not matter, just compare 3 and 0.1)

Ok, thank you!
eV is electron volt isn't it?
 
|mathematix| said:
Ok, thank you!
eV is electron volt isn't it?

yes.
 

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