Unsolved Problems in Near Surface Geophysics

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The discussion revolves around unsolved problems in applied geophysics, particularly in the context of near-surface phenomena and mineral exploration. Participants explore the potential for new physics-based methods and the integration of existing techniques, as well as the role of technology in advancing the field.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses skepticism about the future of new methods in applied geophysics, citing a belief that the field may be reaching a dead-end, with a focus on data integration and AI rather than innovation.
  • Another participant questions the current methods used in mineral exploration, suggesting that there is potential to improve efficiency by developing new techniques or optimizing existing ones.
  • There is a discussion about the changing tools in geophysics, including the use of autonomous drones for data collection and the potential for new measurements, such as infrared at night.
  • One participant emphasizes the multidimensional nature of mineral exploration, highlighting the importance of integrating various geological disciplines to improve exploration outcomes.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliance on established techniques and the likelihood that new methods will be developed in isolation from existing knowledge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the potential for new methods in applied geophysics. While some believe that innovation is possible, others argue that the field may be limited to integrating existing techniques. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the future direction of research and development in this area.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of current methods and the need for interdisciplinary approaches, but specific assumptions and definitions regarding the effectiveness of new techniques remain unaddressed.

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Hi everyone,

In the past when I was doing my undergrad in physics, I sometimes looked at this page for inspiration in research. However, I was unable to find a similar one for applied geophysics.

Currently, my area of research is exploration non-seismic geophysics, where the focus is on near surface phenomena. I know that in the past century, physics-based methods such as gravimetry, magnetics, time and frequency domain electromagnetics, self potential (SP) and Induced Polarization (IP) have been developed and successfully used for mineral exploration.However when I speak to people in the field, they argue that there is "no juice to be squeezed" and that the probability of a new method emerging is next to none. Apparently the current focus is rather on data integration from the existing methods, with most using AI for that purpose. It is hard to agree with this, since it could imply that applied geophysics is a dead-end subfield of physics.

My question to the community, particularly those who worked with or studied geophysics is the following: What are some unsolved problems in applied geophysics in your opinion? Is there potential for the emergence of a new physics-based method (e.g., IP and SP)? Or rather, is there potential for applying new physics to develop novel geophysical measurement techniques ?(e.g., building better magnetometers).

Very curious to know your thoughts!
Thanks.
 
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AryaKimiaghalam said:
What are some unsolved problems in applied geophysics in your opinion?
How have the tools changed, and what will, or has now, become possible?

Numerical computation certainly supports seismic. But what other wave analysis is possible?

Autonomous drones can gather more data, faster, at lower cost.
What could they measure?
What about IR at night?
 
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AryaKimiaghalam said:
Hi everyone,

In the past when I was doing my undergrad in physics, I sometimes looked at this page for inspiration in research. However, I was unable to find a similar one for applied geophysics.

Currently, my area of research is exploration non-seismic geophysics, where the focus is on near surface phenomena. I know that in the past century, physics-based methods such as gravimetry, magnetics, time and frequency domain electromagnetics, self potential (SP) and Induced Polarization (IP) have been developed and successfully used for mineral exploration.However when I speak to people in the field, they argue that there is "no juice to be squeezed" and that the probability of a new method emerging is next to none. Apparently the current focus is rather on data integration from the existing methods, with most using AI for that purpose. It is hard to agree with this, since it could imply that applied geophysics is a dead-end subfield of physics.

My question to the community, particularly those who worked with or studied geophysics is the following: What are some unsolved problems in applied geophysics in your opinion? Is there potential for the emergence of a new physics-based method (e.g., IP and SP)? Or rather, is there potential for applying new physics to develop novel geophysical measurement techniques ?(e.g., building better magnetometers).

Very curious to know your thoughts!
Thanks.
I'm geophycian like you i think that there are a lot of things that we cqn do to improve our field, you know that about exploration of mineral ressources, we usually use two or three method to explore one mineral because we thing that one method can't dit this word , the question is why not?? it's our work to find how we can use one method to explore efficiently one specific mineral, and i also thing we can create another method of exploration
 
peter demessong said:
... it's our work to find how we can use one method to explore efficiently one specific mineral, and I also think we can create another method of exploration.
Mineral exploration is multidimensional. You need petrology, geochemical, and structural geology, with geomorphology, to identify domains where the preconditions are present that might locate an economic orebody.

The range of techniques available for mineral exploration, will probably grow, but new techniques will never be used in isolation, they will always follow earlier results, that have previously classified the geological landscape. It is most unlikely that an exploration geologist would discard useful data that could narrow the search area, reduce the cost of the survey, and speed the return on investment.
 
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