Uranium 235 or Plutonium 239: Which is Better for Atomic Bombs?

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The discussion revolves around the comparative advantages and disadvantages of using Uranium-235 (U-235) versus Plutonium-239 (Pu-239) in atomic bomb construction. Participants explore aspects such as availability, design complexity, and the implications of using different isotopes in nuclear weapons.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Pu-239 can be obtained from the waste of nuclear reactors and can be chemically reprocessed, but the construction of plutonium bombs is technically challenging and requires precise design.
  • Concerns are raised about contamination of plutonium with Pu-240, which could affect the efficiency of the chain reaction in a bomb.
  • One participant describes the implosion method used in plutonium bombs, emphasizing the need for balanced and uniform explosive detonation to achieve successful compression of the plutonium mass.
  • There is confusion regarding the mention of Uranium-234 (U-234), with participants questioning its relevance and utility in bomb construction, noting its low abundance and relatively benign nature as an alpha emitter.
  • Another participant highlights the minuscule percentage of U-234 in natural uranium, suggesting that U-235 is a more viable option for bomb-making due to its higher fission cross-section.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the utility of U-234, with some dismissing it as impractical for bomb construction. There is no consensus on the overall superiority of U-235 versus Pu-239, as both sides present valid points regarding their respective advantages and challenges.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of using U-234, and there are ongoing discussions about the technical challenges associated with plutonium bomb design.

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pros and cons of using uranium 235 or plutonium 239 in an atomic bomb?
 
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Plutonium bombs have the advantage that Pu-239 is available because it is made in the waste product of nuclear reactors and can easily be chemically reprocessed. However, the plutonium bomb design and construction is extremely difficult and precise. Plutonium is often contaminated by Pu-240, which is very reactive and decays before the chain reaction goes to completion. So to prevent this from happening, plutonium bombs use implosion. Explosives are detonated on all sides of a mass of Pu to compress it into a small "blob" where the three neutrons emitted can hit other Pu-239 atoms quickly and continue the chain reaction. But the explosions must be entirely balanced and uniform to implode the Pu properly and successfully detonate a Plutonium bomb.
 
oops i meant to say uranium 234 and plutonium 239. also what is the costs of each.
 
brandy said:
oops i meant to say uranium 234

:rolleyes: what are you supposed to do with U-234 ?
 
vanesch said:
:rolleyes: what are you supposed to do with U-234 ?


put it in an atomic bomb?
what do u mean?
 
brandy said:
put it in an atomic bomb?
what do u mean?

U 234 doesn't go bang - it's a relatively innocuous alpha emitter.
 
Not to mention the fact that U-234 is 0.0055% of natural uranium. This means take 1000 kg of pure uranium, and only 55 grams of it is U-234. You're better off making a bomb out of the U235 you have. Plus it has a horrible fission cross section http://wwwndc.tokai-sc.jaea.go.jp/cgi-bin/Tab80WWW.cgi?/data/JENDL/JENDL-3.3prc/intern/U234.intern .
 
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yes i meant to say u-235.
 
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brandy said:
yes i meant to say u-235.

Which is what you said initially...:wink:
 

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