USAPhO 2014 F=ma exam #14, (rotational dynamics)

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The discussion focuses on the USAPhO 2014 F=ma exam question regarding the rotational dynamics of a disk with a cord wrapped around it. The correct ratio of translational kinetic energy (KE) to total kinetic energy is established as KEtranslational / KEtotal = I / (MR² + I). Participants explore the implications of frictionless motion and the relationship between translational and rotational motion, emphasizing the importance of understanding the conditions under which v = Rω applies.

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  • Understanding of rotational dynamics and moment of inertia (I)
  • Familiarity with kinetic energy equations: KE = 1/2 mv² and KE = 1/2 Iω²
  • Knowledge of torque and its relation to angular acceleration (Torque = Iα)
  • Concept of frictionless surfaces and its impact on motion
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  • Study the relationship between translational and rotational motion in detail
  • Learn about the effects of friction on rolling objects
  • Explore the derivation of kinetic energy ratios in rotational dynamics
  • Investigate the application of Newton's second law in rotational systems
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PDF: http://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2014/upload/exam1-2014-2-2-answers.pdf

Homework Statement



A disk of moment of inertia I, mass M, and radius R has a cord wrapped around it tightly as
shown in the diagram. The disk is free to slide on its side as shown in the top down view. A
constant force of T is applied to the end of the cord and accelerates the disk along a frictionless
surface.

After the disk has accelerated some distance, determine the ratio of the translational KE to total KE of the disk,

KEtranslational / KEtotal =

Answer) I / (MR2 +I)

Homework Equations



Torque = Iα = F x R

KE = 1/2 mv2 or 1/2 Iω2

The Attempt at a Solution



My conceptual understanding is the problem here, I think. If there is absolutely no friction, then would there be any rotation? I think there would be, but I'm not sure.

Here's an attempt:

KEtranslational / KEtotal = Mv2 / (Mv2 + Iω2)

Substituting v = Rω, cancelling the ω2 terms

= MR2 / (MR2 + I)

So I get an answer close but not exactly the correct answer. The answer I got is choice E on the actual exam, meaning my attempt probably has a common mistake.
 
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PDF: http://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2014/upload/exam1-2014-2-2-answers.pdf

Homework Statement



A disk of moment of inertia I, mass M, and radius R has a cord wrapped around it tightly as
shown in the diagram. The disk is free to slide on its side as shown in the top down view. A
constant force of T is applied to the end of the cord and accelerates the disk along a frictionless
surface.

After the disk has accelerated some distance, determine the ratio of the translational KE to total KE of the disk,

KEtranslational / KEtotal =

Answer) I / (MR2 +I)

Homework Equations



Torque = Iα = F x R

KE = 1/2 mv2 or 1/2 Iω2

The Attempt at a Solution



My conceptual understanding is the problem here, I think. If there is absolutely no friction, then would there be any rotation? I think there would be, but I'm not sure.

Here's an attempt:

KEtranslational / KEtotal = Mv2 / (Mv2 + Iω2)

Substituting v = Rω, cancelling the ω2 terms

= MR2 / (MR2 + I)

So I get an answer close but not exactly the correct answer. The answer I got is choice E on the actual exam, meaning my attempt probably has a common mistake.

v = Rω isn't true. That's only true if you are rolling without slipping. Since you have no friction, that's not true. Use F=ma=mdv/dt and a similar form for the rotational motion to compute both forms of energy as a function of time, t.
 

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