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The discussion revolves around calculating the number of resonances observed in a closed-end tube when a tuning fork of frequency 256 Hz is used. The original poster provides a length of the tube (4 m) and attempts to apply the wave equation to find the wavelength and resonances.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the type of tube used in the experiment and its implications on resonance calculations. There is an exploration of the relationship between the length of the tube, frequency, and wavelength, as well as the correct application of the resonance formula for a closed-end tube.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the assumptions made about the tube's configuration and the impact of water level on resonance calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the proper use of the resonance equation, and there is a shared understanding that integer values for resonance modes must be considered.

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There is a mention of the need for clarity on the type of tube used, as well as the effect of raising and lowering the water level on the length of the tube for resonance calculations. The discussion also highlights the importance of evaluating inequalities in the context of the problem.

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1. If the length of the tube used in our experiment is 4 m, how many resonances would you observe when a tuning fork of frequency 256HZ is used?



2. v=f[tex]\lambda[/tex] ; L = (1/4)(2n+1)[tex]\lambda[/tex]



3. 340m/s = 256Hz[tex]\lambda[/tex] [tex]\lambda[/tex] = 1.328125m
4 = (1/4)(2n+1)(1.328125m)
12.05 = 2n+1
5.5 = n
 
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We need to know what kind of tube you used in lab (open, one end closed, etc.)
 
one end of the tube is open. The other end has water at the end of it.
 
jimisreincarn said:
one end of the tube is open. The other end has water at the end of it.

Ok and you probably raised the water level while ringing the tuning fork and marked where you heard resonances, right?

So this is a closed end tube. You are correct in using the equation [tex]L = \frac{2n+1}{4}\lambda[/tex]

However, you are not correct in leaving L at 4 because you raised and lowered the water level. What you should do is evaluate the inequality [tex]4 \leq \frac{2n+1}{4}\lambda[/tex]
and solve for n. Of course you are only allowed integer values of n.
 
okay, that makes sense. so if my evaluation of the wavelength is correct, i would substitute it into the inequality and I should get n < 5? so at most there are 5 resonance structures.
 
jimisreincarn said:
okay, that makes sense. so if my evaluation of the wavelength is correct, i would substitute it into the inequality and I should get n < 5? so at most there are 5 resonance structures.

Yep, that is what I get as well.
 

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