Resonant Frequency and speed of sound

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The discussion revolves around calculating the resonant frequency of a hollow tube chime, specifically one that is 0.54m long, with the speed of sound given as 346m/s. Participants explore how the length of the chime affects the frequency produced, particularly focusing on the third resonant length.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the length of the chime and the frequency produced, with some attempting calculations based on the speed of sound and wavelength. Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of resonant lengths and the equations used.

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There are multiple interpretations of the problem, with some participants questioning the original poster's calculations and assumptions. While one participant claims to have solved the problem, others continue to discuss the implications of the physical properties of the chime and the equations used.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the frequency of a hollow tube chime may depend on factors beyond the length of the air column, such as the physical properties of the material and its vibration characteristics.

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1. Hollow tube chimes are made of metal and are open at each end. One chime is 0.54m long.

-If the speed of sound is 346m/s, what is the frequency of sound produced by the third resonant length?

-What would happen to the frequency of sound produced by the third resonant length if the chime were shorter?


3. I'm having a hard time with this question, but here's my attempt:

Info: 0.54m, Speed of sound=346m/s
Half of one wavelength is the length of the chime.
λ=0.54m*2
λ=1.08m
Find frequency:
v=ƒ*λ
346m/s=ƒ*1.08m
ƒ=346/1.08
ƒ=320Hz
Find the third resonant length:
L3=5λ/4
L3=5(1.08)/4
L3=1.35m
Find frequency at this length:
ƒ=v/λ
ƒ=346m/s/1.35
=256Hz
3rd resonance frequency should be around 960Hz
 
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L3 is still the length of the pipe, so ##\lambda## is a lot smaller than the 1.08 m you use...

The 5/4 isn't correct either: both ends are open
 
From the information given, I suppose you are meant to solve the problem like the OP did.

But in real life the frequency of a hollow tube chime depends on the vibration of the tube bending like a beam, not on the length of the air column inside.
 
I've solved it myself. It's actually quite simple, I was using the wrong equation for resonant frequency.

Info: 0.54m, Speed of sound=346m/s
Half of one wavelength is the length of the chime.
λ=0.54m*2
λ=1.08m
Use first resonant frequency equation:
F1=v/λ
F1=346/1.08
=320Hz
Now multiply the first resonant length frequency by 3 to achieve the third resonant length frequency.
320*3=960Hz.
 
Well done.
 

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