Using integral calculus to find the equation of the quartic

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The problem involves using integral calculus to determine the equation of a quartic function given specific points and a y-intercept. The context includes the properties of the quartic related to its stationary points of inflection.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss integrating the second derivative of the quartic function and the implications of the constants of integration. There are questions about the correctness of the integration steps and the need to expand expressions before integrating.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the integration process and the necessity of determining constants based on the given points. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly derive the quartic function from the second derivative.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of correctly interpreting the conditions provided, such as the y-intercept and the values at specific points, which are crucial for determining the constants in the quartic equation.

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Homework Statement


The question states Use integral calculus to find the euation of the quartic that has (1,23) and (3, 15) and a y-intercept of 24.

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The previous part of the question was A quartic has stationary points of inflection at x=1 and x=3. Explain why f"(x)=k(x-1)(x-3) where k doesn't =0

The Attempt at a Solution


Part A:

A quartic has a non-stationary points of inflection at x=1 and x=3. Explain why f”(x)=k(x-1)(x-3) k≠0

A quartics points of inflection can be found by equating its second derivative to zero.

as f”(x)=k(x-1)(x-3) if f”(x)=0

0=k(x-1)(x-3)

if k≠0

0=(x-1)(x-3)

and hence x=1 and x=3Part B:

Use integral calculus to find the equation of the quartic that has (1,23) and (3,15) and a y-intercept of 24.

f”(x)=k(x-1)(x-3)
 
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Hi Jaimee, have you tried integrating the second derivative? Or are you unsure how to do the integration?
 
Currently i have this
f”(x)=k(x-1)(x-3)

∫f”(x)=∫k(x-1)(x-3)

f’(x)=k∫(x−3)(x−1)dx

f’(x)=((k(x−3)^2 (x))/3)+C

but f(x)=24 x=0

f’(0)=0

0=((k(0−3)^2 (0))/3)+C

0=0+C

C=0
therefore f'(x)=((k(x−3)^2 (x))/3)
 
Thread moved -- if the title includes "calculus" the thread doesn't belong in the Precalculus section.
 
Jaimee said:
Currently i have this
f”(x)=k(x-1)(x-3)

∫f”(x)=∫k(x-1)(x-3)

f’(x)=k∫(x−3)(x−1)dx

f’(x)=((k(x−3)^2 (x))/3)+C

but f(x)=24 x=0

f’(0)=0

0=((k(0−3)^2 (0))/3)+C

0=0+C

C=0
therefore f'(x)=((k(x−3)^2 (x))/3)

I'm not sure I follow the third line: f’(x)=((k(x−3)^2 (x))/3)+C
Maybe try expanding (x-3)(x-1) before integrating. Also you want a quartic (order 4) so does that mean your answer can be found with the first derivative? Or do you need to do an extra step?

EDIT: I mean the 4th line not the third. In future its good practice to number your equations, it will help people help you! :).
 
Jaimee said:
Currently i have this
f”(x)=k(x-1)(x-3)

∫f”(x)=∫k(x-1)(x-3)

f’(x)=k∫(x−3)(x−1)dx

f’(x)=((k(x−3)^2 (x))/3)+C
As already noted, the line above is wrong. I can't tell what you did. You should expand (x - 3)(x - 1) before atempting to integrate.
Jaimee said:
but f(x)=24 x=0
From the given information about the y-intercept, f(0) = 24, not f(x) = 24.

Starting with f''(x), you need to integrate twice to get f(x). At each integration there will be a constant of integration.
Jaimee said:
Use integral calculus to find the equation of the quartic that has (1,23) and (3,15) and a y-intercept of 24.
When you get to a formula for f(x), there should be two constants of integration. Use the fact that f(1) = 23, f(3) = 15, and f(0) = 24 to determine those constants of integration and the constant k.

Your function should be a fourth-degree polynomial with all coefficients determined.
 

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