Using Maxwell-Boltzman Statistics

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The discussion revolves around the applicability of Maxwell-Boltzmann statistics for an electron gas in a metal at a temperature of 2.7K, specifically within a cubic metal lattice with a spacing of 2Å. Participants are examining whether the classical approximation is valid based on the relationship between the de Broglie wavelength and particle spacing.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the conditions under which Maxwell-Boltzmann statistics can be applied, particularly focusing on the comparison between the de Broglie wavelength and the particle spacing. There are attempts to derive and calculate relevant quantities, with some questioning the complexity and correctness of the calculations presented.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and interpretations. Some participants suggest simpler methods for evaluating the conditions for using Maxwell-Boltzmann statistics, while others point out potential errors in calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the final applicability of the statistics yet, as participants are still verifying their results.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of classical statistical mechanics and are specifically focused on the conditions that allow for the use of Maxwell-Boltzmann statistics in the context of a low-temperature electron gas. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the de Broglie wavelength is significantly smaller than the particle spacing for the approximation to hold.

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Homework Statement


Determine if the classical approximation (Maxwell-Boltzmann statistics) could be employed for the following case: a) Electron gas in a metal at 2.7K (cubic metal lattice of spacing 2Å)

Homework Equations


Maxwell-Boltzmann statistics are acceptable to use if the de broglie wavelength, λ << d

Relation - Particle spacing, d, and density, (N/V) = 1/d3
d = (V/N)1/3

Kinetic energy, KE = p2/2m = 3/2KbT
λ = h/p = h/(3mKbT)1/2

The Attempt at a Solution


2Å = 2*10-10m
(N / V) = 1 / (2Å)3
(N / V) = 1 / 8*10-30m

λ << (V/N)1/3

h3/(3mKbT)3/2 << (V/N)

λ = h3/(3mKbT)3/2

h3/(3mKbT)3/2 << (V/N)

(N/V)(h3/(3mKbT)3/2) << 1

(1 / 8*10-30)(h3/(3mKbT)3/2)

(1 / 8*10-30)(6.62*10-34)3) / (3)(9.109*10-31)(1.38*10-23)(2.7)

4.10*10-124 << 1

So the classical approximation could be used. I'm pretty sure my derivation is correct, but I'm not sure if the calculation is.
 
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Far too complicated, and the answer's very wrong. You have a formula for λ, why not use it and compare the result with the given value of d?
 
So I should just evaluate:
h/(3mKbT)1/2 << 2Å

λ=6.62*10-34/((3)(9.109*10-31)(1.38*10-23)(2.7))λ= 6.5*1018, which is not << 2Å, so we can't use Maxwell-Boltzmann statistics
 
I got 6.5*10-8m, which is still > 2Å. Did you forget to square-root the denominator?
 
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Yes, I must have forgot to square-root the denominator. so 6.5*10-8 m> 2Å so Maxwell-Boltzmann statistics would not be a good approximation to use.
 
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