Using the series expansion of e^KX, evaluate 2^-3.4 accurate to 3 dp?

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The problem involves evaluating \(2^{-3.4}\) using the series expansion of \(e^{KX}\) and the relationship \(a^X = e^{X \ln a}\). The original poster attempts to expand \(e^{-3.4 \ln(2)}\) using the Taylor series for \(e^x\).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the number of terms needed for the series expansion to achieve the desired accuracy. Some question the original poster's approach and suggest using more terms due to the size of \(x\). Others inquire about rules for determining the number of terms in the expansion.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the number of terms to use in the series expansion. There is an exploration of the implications of the size of \(x\) on the accuracy of the approximation, and the original poster is encouraged to try different values to meet the accuracy requirement.

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Participants note that the examples in the original poster's text typically involve smaller values of \(x\), which may not directly apply to this case where \(|x| > 1\). There is also mention of the alternating nature of the series due to the negative exponent.

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Homework Statement



Using the series expansion of e^KX and the fact that a^X=e^Xlna, evaluate 2^-3.4 accurate to 3 dp?

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So a^X=e^Xlna. Basically we need to expand e^-3.4ln(2).

e^x=1+X+(X^2)/2!+(X^3)/3!...

e^-3.4ln(2)= 1-3.4ln(2)+(-3.4ln(2))^2/2+(-3.4ln(2))^3/6… See any errors in the expansion? The answer is supposedly 0.095 Can't seem to get it right.

Thank you.
 
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Looks fine to me. How many terms did you use in the expansion? Because x is relatively large, you'll have to use about 12 terms to get the accuracy you want.
 
vela said:
Looks fine to me.

When I google the expansion it gives me -0.761 when the answer is supposed to be 0.095
 
You need to use more terms. (I edited my previous post, probably after you read it.)
 
vela said:
You need to use more terms. (I edited my previous post, probably after you read it.)

Awesome. I am going to try it in a minute, but how do I know if the X is relatively large or small? Is there any rule of thumb for choosing the number of terms for expansion? I am asking this because all the examples given in the explanation section of my text are easily solved just by expanding e^x up to maximum of 4 terms.
 
Roughly speaking, the largeness or smallness of the number is in comparison to 1. If |x|<1, then |xn| grows smaller as n increases. Combined with the effect of the denominator in each term, the terms quickly become small, and you need to use only a few terms to get a good approximation. On the other hand, if |x|>1, then |xn| grows larger as n increases, so the terms don't get small until you've gone further in the series.

In this problem, because x<0, you end up with an alternating series. There's a theorem that says if you sum the first n terms of an alternating series to get an approximation, the error in that approximation is no bigger than magnitude of the next term in the series. (I'm being a bit sloppy here, but that's the essential concept you need.) For example, after you added the first 4 terms, you got an approximation of -0.761. The next term in the series, x4/4!, is equal to 1.285, so the theorem guarantees you that
-0.761 - 1.285 &lt; 2^{-3.4} &lt; -0.761 + 1.285.To find the answer to three decimal places, you want the error to be less than 0.001, so you want to find n such that |x|n/n! < 0.001. The easiest thing to do here is try different values of n until you find one that works.

More generally, there's a formula for the remainder if you truncate the Taylor series after n terms. In a similar way, you want to find the value of n that'll make that remainder small enough for your needs. There might be some rule of thumb that let's you estimate the number of terms you need, but I'm not aware of any.
 
I appreciate your help. Thank You very much.
 

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