Using trig identity to simplify?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of the expression 1/(r^2+l^2)^(3/2). Participants explore methods for simplifying the integral and discuss the use of substitution techniques in integration.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the integral 1/(r^2+l^2)^(3/2) and seeks a method to simplify it using known formulas.
  • Another participant suggests using the substitution r=lx to transform the integral into a more manageable form.
  • There is confusion among participants regarding the substitution process and its justification, with one participant expressing uncertainty about how substitution works in this context.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the technique of integration by substitution, with participants discussing the importance of recognizing when to apply such methods.
  • A later reply indicates that after revisiting the problem, one participant finds the substitution straightforward and acknowledges the technique of u-substitution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial confusion regarding substitution, but there is agreement on the effectiveness of the substitution method once clarified. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding about integration techniques.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the substitution method and its application, indicating a need for clearer explanations of the underlying principles.

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I have this equation 1/(r^2+l^2)^(3/2) and I need to integrate it quickly. My first thought is using this integral formula 1/(1+x^2)^(3/2)=x/sqrt(1+x^2) but how exactly do I get my equation into that form?
 
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$$\int \frac{dr}{(r^2+l^2)^{3/2}}$$

You are thinking too much of formulas and not enough of algebra.
What happens if you put r=lx?
 
I'm not sure what you mean by what happens. Like, do the integral when r^2=l^2*x^2?
 
Typhon4ever said:
I'm not sure what you mean by what happens. Like, do the integral when r^2=l^2*x^2?

He means "do the substitution and write down what you get".
 
Ok I do get a right answer doing that way. I am confused though, how can I just sub in lx? I understand if we divide or multiply to shift the variables around but I'm confused on this subbing thing.
 
Typhon4ever said:
Ok I do get a right answer doing that way. I am confused though, how can I just sub in lx? I understand if we divide or multiply to shift the variables around but I'm confused on this subbing thing.

Integration by substitution, the integration technique, as opposed to integration by randomly plugging in other things
 
Oh I went through it again and its simple u sub nevermind haha.
 
Oh I went through it again and its simple u sub nevermind haha.
(My emphasis.)
If I said "substitute r=lu" you'd have been fine?

You have to look for these things ...
...the way forward will not normally look like some formula you've memorized.

Anyway you go there - well done.
 

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