Using Upper, Lower Sum, Prove the Following

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The discussion revolves around proving a property of the integral of the function f(x) = x² over the interval [a, b]. Participants are exploring the definitions of upper and lower sums in the context of Riemann integration.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss dividing the interval [a, b] into n pieces and determining the maximum and minimum values of the function on these subintervals. Questions arise regarding how to identify these values and the implications of the function being increasing over the interval.

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There is ongoing exploration of the definitions and calculations involved in upper and lower sums. Some participants have provided clarifications on the behavior of the function and the necessary calculations, while others are still seeking clarity on specific points and the overall approach.

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Participants note that the function x² is increasing for positive values of a and b, which influences the determination of maximum and minimum values on the subintervals. There are also mentions of potential formatting issues with mathematical expressions that may affect clarity.

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Homework Statement


[tex]f(x)=x^{2}[/tex] from [a,b]

Prove that [tex]F(x)=\frac{b^{3}}{2}-\frac{a^{3}}{2}[/tex]

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The Attempt at a Solution


Using the definition of an integral, we get:
[tex]U(f,P)=\sum^{n}_{i=1}M_{i}(t_{i}-t_{i-1})[/tex]
[tex]L(f,P)\sum^{n}_{i=1}m_{i}(t_{i}-t_{i-1})[/tex]

for the function x2, how do we find M?

I'm somewhat confused, a nudge in the right directions is welcomed.
 
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Divide the interval [a,b] into n pieces and let t be the boundaries of these pieces; so t0 = a, t1 = a + (b - a) / n, t2 = a + 2 (b - a) / n, etc.
Mi is the maximum of f on the piece [ti-1, ti] and mi is the minimum.

It may become clearer if you draw a picture in which you draw the graph, the division of [a, b] and the rectangular areas that make up U(f, P) or L(f, P)
 
CompuChip said:
Divide the interval [a,b] into n pieces and let t be the boundaries of these pieces; so t0 = a, t1 = a + (b - a) / n, t2 = a + 2 (b - a) / n, etc.
Mi is the maximum of f on the piece [ti-1, ti] and mi is the minimum.

It may become clearer if you draw a picture in which you draw the graph, the division of [a, b] and the rectangular areas that make up U(f, P) or L(f, P)

Ah, that's right, the partition is a=t0<t1<...<tn=b

So we get this:
[tex]\sum^{n}_{i=1}M_{i}(a+\frac{b-a}{n})[/tex]

But I still am not understanding where we get M and m from. We need to find the maximum minimum points on the interval? Or is there an easier way?
 
As long as a and b are positive, [itex]x^2[/itex] is an increasing function so the maximum value on each interval, [itex]M_i[/itex], is at the right end and the minimum value on each interval, [itex]m_i[/itex], is at the left end. Further, if you divide [a, b] into n intervals, each interval has length [itex]t_i- t_{i-1}= (b- a)/n[/itex], the left endpoint is a+ (b- a)i/n for i= 0 to n-1, and the right endpoint is a+ (b- a)i/n for i= 1 to n. That is, [itex]M_i= (a+ (b-a)i/n)^2[/itex], for i= 1 to n and [itex]m_i= (a+ (b-a)i/n)^2[/itex] for i= 0 to n-1.
[itex]M_i(t_i- t_{i-1})= ((b-a)/n)(a+ (b-a)i/n)^2[/itex] for i= 1 to n and [itex]m_i(t_i- t_{i-1})= ((b- a)/n)(a+ (b- a)i/n)^2[/itex]
Multiply those out and sum. It will help if you know that [itex]\sum_{i=1}^n c= nc[/itex], [itex]\sum_{i=1}^n i= n(n+ 1)/2[/itex] and [itex]\sum_{i=1}^n i^2= [n(n+1)(2n+1)]/6[/itex]. Those should be in your text.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
As long as a and b are positive, [itex]x^2[/itex] is an increasing function so the maximum value on each interval, [itex]M_i[/itex], is at the right end and the minimum value on each interval, [itex]m_i[/itex], is at the left end. Further, if you divide [a, b] into n intervals, each interval has length [itex]t_i- t_{i-1}= (b- a)/n[/itex], the left endpoint is a+ (b- a)i/n for i= 0 to n-1, and the right endpoint is a+ (b- a)i/n for i= 1 to n. That is, [itex]M_i= (a+ (b-a)i/n)^2[/itex], for i= 1 to n and [itex]m_i= (a+ (b-a)i/n)^2[/itex] for i= 0 to n-1.
[itex]M_i(t_i- t_{i-1})= ((b-a)/n)(a+ (b-a)i/n)^2[/itex] for i= 1 to n and [itex]m_i(t_i- t_{i-1})= ((b- a)/n)(a+ (b- a)i/n)^2[/itex]
Multiply those out and sum. It will help if you know that [itex]\sum_{i=1}^n c= nc[/itex], [itex]\sum_{i=1}^n i= n(n+ 1)/2[/itex] and [itex]\sum_{i=1}^n i^2= [n(n+1)(2n+1)]/6[/itex]. Those should be in your text.

You had some formatting problems XD

I think I get what you're saying though, it makes sense. So, in the interval [a,b], the highest value of f(x) will be at b. If I understand what you're saying, M will be equal to ti2, and m will be t2i-1?

There seems to be some weird latex problem.
 
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I think I got it.

[tex]U(f,P)=\sum^{n}_{i=1}M_{i}(t_{i}-t_{i-1})[/tex]
[tex]L(f,P)=\sum^{n}_{i=1}m{i-1}(t_{i}-t_{i-1})[/tex]

[itex]m_{i}=t^{2}_{i-1}; M_{i}=t^{2}_{i}[/itex]

[tex]=\sum^{n}_{i=1}t^{2}_{i}(\frac{b-a}{n})[/tex]
[tex]=\sum^{n}_{i=1}t^{2}_{i-1}(\frac{b-a}{n})[/tex]

[tex]t^{2}_{i}=i^{2}\frac{b^{2}-a^{2}}{n^{2}}[/tex]
[tex]t^{2}_{i-1}=(i-1)^{2}\frac{b^{2}-a^{2}}{n^{2}}[/tex]

[tex]=\sum^{n}_{i=1}i^{2}\frac{b^{2}-a^{2}}{n^{2}}(\frac{b-a}{n})[/tex]
[tex]=\sum^{n}_{i=1}(i-1)^{2}\frac{b^{2}-a^{2}}{n^{2}}(\frac{b-a}{n})[/tex]

Now we just need to simplify, right?
 
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