UV Light Penetration: Explaining Heuristic of Photopolymers

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the penetration of UV light in photopolymers, specifically exploring the heuristic that longer wavelengths penetrate deeper than shorter wavelengths. Participants seek to explain this phenomenon, considering various factors such as material properties and the physics of light transport.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that longer wavelengths of UV light, such as UVA, penetrate deeper into photopolymers compared to shorter wavelengths like UVC.
  • One participant suggests that the probability of photons passing through a medium without colliding with particles increases with longer wavelengths, using an analogy of a skier navigating a slalom course.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the penetration of UV light is highly material-specific and depends on the chemical structure and composition of the photopolymer.
  • A later reply highlights the importance of the phonon spectrum of the material in understanding light transport, noting that this area is well-studied in solid state and condensed matter physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms behind UV light penetration in photopolymers, with no consensus reached on a definitive explanation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best way to articulate the heuristic.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the physics of light transport is complex and influenced by various material properties, which are not fully detailed in the discussion.

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For a photopolymer, the heuristic goes that longer wavelengths of UV light penetrate deeper than shorter wavelengths of UV light. For example, the UVA spectrum penetrates more deeply into the photopolymer than the UVC spectrum. What is the best way for this to be explained?
 
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This question has already been addressed here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/wavelength-and-penetration.350432/

The answers given are very technical, however, and I am not as clever as many here, so I am very prepared to be corrected if I am wrong. Some years ago, I read Richard Feynman's book QED. If I understood correctly, as photons pass through a medium, such as glass, some will strike a particle within the material and be reflected, and some will pass through without striking anything. This is why we can see a reflection in glass as well as seeing through it.

Now, when its wavelength is longer, a photon has a greater probability of passing through without striking anything. This could be illustrated by a skier on a slalom course. If he is skiing with a "long wavelength", for example, if he only has to turn at every fourth flag, he would be less likely to collide with one within a given distance than he would if he was skiing with a "short wavelength", as when he must make a turn around every flag.

The case with a polymer would be different to glass, in that it is not as transparent to photons. Nevertheless, there is still a greater probability of the photon avoiding a collision for longer if its wavelength is longer.
 
sdhpg said:
For a photopolymer, the heuristic goes that longer wavelengths of UV light penetrate deeper than shorter wavelengths of UV light. For example, the UVA spectrum penetrates more deeply into the photopolymer than the UVC spectrum. What is the best way for this to be explained?

UV light's "penetration" by wavelength is very material specific and without clear details about the photo-polymers chemical structure (polymers) and composition (additives), no more can be said.
 
What is needed here is the phonon spectrum of the material.

The physics of light transport in a material is not trivial, and it is dealt with in solid state/condensed matter physics. In fact, the use of optical spectra in the study of material is a well-established area of study within this field of physics. Many optical diagnostics such as Raman, UV-VIS, FTIR, etc. use the properties of light transport in solids to extra information such as the phonon structure of the material. The optical mode of the phonon structure, for example, greatly influences light transport in that material, often producing significant characteristics such as transparency, penetration depth, absorption bandwidth, etc.

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