UVA vs UVB: Why does UVA penetrate deeper into the skin?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the reasons why UVA radiation, which has a longer wavelength, penetrates deeper into the skin compared to UVB radiation, which has a shorter wavelength. Participants explore the implications of wavelength, energy, scattering, and absorption in the context of skin penetration by ultraviolet light.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Chris questions why UVA, with lower energy and intensity, penetrates deeper than UVB, despite the relationship between energy and wavelength.
  • One participant suggests that longer wavelength light generally penetrates deeper into scattering media, citing the example of the sun appearing red at sunset.
  • Chris challenges this view by referencing the scattering properties of light, noting that shorter wavelengths scatter more in the atmosphere, and compares it to X-rays, which penetrate deeply despite their short wavelength.
  • Chris later reflects that the initial response makes sense when considering scattering and absorption, suggesting that UVB's tendency to cause surface burns may be due to its scattering properties.
  • Another participant adds that absorption by tissue, particularly water, may also limit penetration depth, noting that water absorbs UVB more than UVA.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms behind the penetration of UVA and UVB, with some agreeing on the role of scattering and absorption while others maintain differing interpretations of the underlying physics. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various physical principles, including energy-wavelength relationships and scattering laws, but do not reach a consensus on the primary factors influencing the penetration depth of UVA versus UVB.

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Hello,

My name is Chris and I am trying to understand why UVA radiation, with a longer wavelength, penetrates deeper into the skin than UVB which has a shorter wavelength.

Since E=hv=hc/ λ and
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then how does a lower energy and lower intensity UVA wave penetrate deeper into the skin than a UVB wave?

Pardoning the pun, I would appreciate it if someone could enlighten me :eek:)

Many thanks...
 
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In general, longer wavelength light will always pennetrate deeper into a scattering medium. This is the same reason why the sun appears red at sunset.
 
Ygggdrasil said:
In general, longer wavelength light will always pennetrate deeper into a scattering medium. This is the same reason why the sun appears red at sunset.

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your reply but I disagree with your response. In our atmosphere, blue light, with a higher frequency (shorter wavelength) scatters more than red light with a longer wavelength and lower frequency. Scattering is proportional to frequency raised to the power of four...See

An X-Ray has a very high frequency, i.e short wavelength and penetrates both skin and bone and is consistent with the energy and intensity formulas cited earlier. So again, I am trying to find justification for why a longer wave, lower frequency UVA ray penetrates deeper than a shorter wave, higher frequency, higher energy, higher intensity UVB ray.

Thank you,

Chris
 
finnch said:
Dear Sir,

Thank you for your reply but I disagree with your response. In our atmosphere, blue light, with a higher frequency (shorter wavelength) scatters more than red light with a longer wavelength and lower frequency. Scattering is proportional to frequency raised to the power of four...See

An X-Ray has a very high frequency, i.e short wavelength and penetrates both skin and bone and is consistent with the energy and intensity formulas cited earlier. So again, I am trying to find justification for why a longer wave, lower frequency UVA ray penetrates deeper than a shorter wave, higher frequency, higher energy, higher intensity UVB ray.

Thank you,

Chris
Sorry Ygggdrasil,

After a little more reflection, your response does make sense and the youtube video I posted earlier actually supports your response. I was looking for an explanation considering only the energy side of the question without considering the scattering when the light actually interacts with matter. So I guess that when dermatologists tell us that UVB burns more but UVA penetrates more deeply, then it's the scattering of the UVB along the surface of our bodies that causes the surface burn while the longer UVA transmits deeper into the skin without burning the surface as much?

Thank you for your help.

Chris
 

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