Van de graaff generator as a current source

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A Van de Graaff generator, typically a high voltage generator, can theoretically be used as a current source by grounding its positive terminal and connecting a resistor to the negative terminal. This setup allows any charge on the sphere to be pulled to ground, potentially creating a measurable current. However, the efficiency of this method is low, as the current generated is minimal compared to the energy required to produce it. The discussion also explores using the current measurement to determine the time needed for the generator to reach maximum voltage, with a proposed formula linking current, capacitance, and voltage. Overall, while the concept is feasible, practical application may yield limited results.
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I know that van de graaff generator is a high voltage generator, i was wondering though if we can use it as a current source, if we get any resistor, connect the negative terminal to the generator "if the generator generates negative charge " then ground the positive terminal, then any charge that appears on the sphere will be immediately pulled to ground, creating a current, using simple formulae we can derive the current, is that feasible or not?
 
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abdo799 said:
I know that van de graaff generator is a high voltage generator, i was wondering though if we can use it as a current source, if we get any resistor, connect the negative terminal to the generator "if the generator generates negative charge " then ground the positive terminal, then any charge that appears on the sphere will be immediately pulled to ground, creating a current, using simple formulae we can derive the current, is that feasible or not?
Sure, it's feasible as far as I can see but it is a HUGE waste of electricity to do that since the amount of current you'll get is tiny vs the amount you have to use to get it.
 
Yea i know, i calculated it, and the efficiency was extremely low
 
Just wanted to know if it would work, going to use it to measure how much time does my generator need to reach maximum voltage
 
abdo799 said:
Just wanted to know if it would work, going to use it to measure how much time does my generator need to reach maximum voltage
I don't get how you could do that.
 
My plan is by grounding the generator and measuring the current in the wires i can use it to know the time to reach the maximum voltage, can't write the formula now because i am using the mobile app
 
abdo799 said:
My plan is by grounding the generator and measuring the current in the wires i can use it to know the time to reach the maximum voltage, can't write the formula now because i am using the mobile app
Assuming I=const the formula is simply t=Vmax⋅C/I
 
I don't know yet if I is constant, but theoretically, it should be
 
abdo799 said:
My plan is by grounding the generator and measuring the current in the wires i can use it to know the time to reach the maximum voltage, can't write the formula now because i am using the mobile app
I still don't get it. If you ground the wires, or run the output of the generator through a resistor, you won't GET any voltage on the sphere. I think you must be talking about something that I'm not following.
 
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That's the whole idea, i don't need any voltage, by grounding the sphere, the generator became a current source, so i measure the current in the wire, or my case i will connect a high resistance and measure the voltage across it because the current will be low and hard to measure.
The maximum voltage of a van de graaff generator is 3*10^6*radius(in meter), and the voltage on the sphere is kQ/r where K is coulomb's constant
Q=I*t and we're done
 

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