Variance in position for the infinite square potential well?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the variance of position for a particle in an infinite square potential well using the wave function form A_nsin(k_nx). Participants emphasize the importance of calculating expectation values for the operators x and x^2 to find the variance, which is defined as Δx^2 = ⟨x^2⟩ - ⟨x⟩². There is clarification that the same integration methods apply to real wave functions as to complex ones, and a participant shares their attempt at the integrals, revealing some confusion over a potential typo in the original problem. The conversation highlights the need for careful application of quantum mechanics principles to solve the problem accurately. Understanding the correct method is crucial for deriving the expected variance in this context.
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This exercise pops up in the Cavendish Quantum Mechanics Primer (M. Warner and A. Cheung) but I can't seem to figure it out. So far, when looking at the infinite square well of width a (and at this point in the book complex wavefunctions are not yet considered), the general form of the wave function is A_nsin(k_nx) where k_n=\frac{\sqrt{2mE}}{\hbar}=\frac{n\pi}{a}=\frac{2\pi}{\lambda}.
I am really at a loss here. I was thinking about \langle x^2 \rangle - \langle x\rangle but I don't know how to apply it here.

The answer should be a^2\left(\frac{1}{12}-\frac{1}{2\pi ^2n^2}\right)...

Thanks in advance!
 
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For a wavefunction ##\psi(x)##, the expectation value of an operator ##\hat{O}## is
##\langle \hat{O} \rangle \equiv \langle \psi | \hat{O} | \psi \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi^*(x) \hat{O} \psi(x) dx##

Hence, you need to compute this for ##x^2## and ##x##.
 
This looks like a homework problem, and you should post it in the homework forum. You'll not get final answers, but we'll try to help you to find the answer yourself.

First of all, you should think about the question, how to evaluate expectation values from the given wave function, which is given up to the constant A_n. So you should check, how to determine it. Finally, the variance of the particle's position is
\Delta x^2=\langle x^2 \rangle - \langle x \rangle^2.
 
LastOneStanding said:
For a wavefunction ##\psi(x)##, the expectation value of an operator ##\hat{O}## is
##\langle \hat{O} \rangle \equiv \langle \psi | \hat{O} | \psi \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi^*(x) \hat{O} \psi(x) dx##

Hence, you need to compute this for ##x^2## and ##x##.
Thanks for your reply! Problem is, I am aware of these formulas but I don't know how to apply them here. For the non-complex case, as here \psi=A_nsin(k_nx), how would you calculate \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi^*(x) \hat{O} \psi(x) dx?

Thanks!
 
You do exactly the same thing you do with a complex wavefunction. ##\psi^*(x) = \psi(x)## if the wavefunction is real.
 
I have tried doing \int_0^ax^2A_n^2sin^2(k_nx)dx-\left(\int_0^axA_n^2sin(k_nx)dx\right)^2, but I got \frac{1}{6}(a^2-9)! Am I at least getting the method right?
 
If the missing square on the sine in the second integral is just a typo then, yes, that's the right method.
 
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Apologies- it is a typo!
 

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