Variance in position for the infinite square potential well?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the variance in position for a particle in an infinite square potential well, as presented in a quantum mechanics context. The original poster is exploring the wave function and its implications for expectation values.

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  • Participants discuss the application of expectation value formulas to the given wave function and the calculation of variance. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to apply the formulas for expectation values in this specific case.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the mathematical approach to calculating expectation values, while others have confirmed the method being used by the original poster. There is an acknowledgment of a typo in the calculations, but the overall method appears to be on the right track.

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The discussion highlights the challenge of working with non-complex wave functions and the need to evaluate integrals within the constraints of the infinite square well setup.

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This exercise pops up in the Cavendish Quantum Mechanics Primer (M. Warner and A. Cheung) but I can't seem to figure it out. So far, when looking at the infinite square well of width a (and at this point in the book complex wavefunctions are not yet considered), the general form of the wave function is A_nsin(k_nx) where k_n=\frac{\sqrt{2mE}}{\hbar}=\frac{n\pi}{a}=\frac{2\pi}{\lambda}.
I am really at a loss here. I was thinking about \langle x^2 \rangle - \langle x\rangle but I don't know how to apply it here.

The answer should be a^2\left(\frac{1}{12}-\frac{1}{2\pi ^2n^2}\right)...

Thanks in advance!
 
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For a wavefunction ##\psi(x)##, the expectation value of an operator ##\hat{O}## is
##\langle \hat{O} \rangle \equiv \langle \psi | \hat{O} | \psi \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi^*(x) \hat{O} \psi(x) dx##

Hence, you need to compute this for ##x^2## and ##x##.
 
This looks like a homework problem, and you should post it in the homework forum. You'll not get final answers, but we'll try to help you to find the answer yourself.

First of all, you should think about the question, how to evaluate expectation values from the given wave function, which is given up to the constant A_n. So you should check, how to determine it. Finally, the variance of the particle's position is
\Delta x^2=\langle x^2 \rangle - \langle x \rangle^2.
 
LastOneStanding said:
For a wavefunction ##\psi(x)##, the expectation value of an operator ##\hat{O}## is
##\langle \hat{O} \rangle \equiv \langle \psi | \hat{O} | \psi \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi^*(x) \hat{O} \psi(x) dx##

Hence, you need to compute this for ##x^2## and ##x##.
Thanks for your reply! Problem is, I am aware of these formulas but I don't know how to apply them here. For the non-complex case, as here \psi=A_nsin(k_nx), how would you calculate \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi^*(x) \hat{O} \psi(x) dx?

Thanks!
 
You do exactly the same thing you do with a complex wavefunction. ##\psi^*(x) = \psi(x)## if the wavefunction is real.
 
I have tried doing \int_0^ax^2A_n^2sin^2(k_nx)dx-\left(\int_0^axA_n^2sin(k_nx)dx\right)^2, but I got \frac{1}{6}(a^2-9)! Am I at least getting the method right?
 
If the missing square on the sine in the second integral is just a typo then, yes, that's the right method.
 
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Apologies- it is a typo!
 

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