Variation of g with altitude and depth

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The discussion centers on the variation of acceleration due to gravity (g) with altitude and depth, referencing specific equations that describe how g changes in these contexts. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the interpretation of these equations and seeks clarification on the concept.

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  • Participants explore the implications of the equations provided for g at altitude and depth, questioning how these mathematical expressions translate to a physical understanding of gravity's variation. Some participants attempt to explain the underlying principles of gravitational attraction and how they relate to the equations.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and attempting to clarify the original poster's confusion. There is a mix of interpretations being explored, particularly regarding the mathematical representation of gravity's decrease with altitude and depth.

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Participants are navigating the challenge of interpreting mathematical equations in a physical context, with some expressing a need for further explanation of the concepts involved. The original poster's request for help indicates a desire for deeper understanding rather than a straightforward solution.

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1. Homework Statement [/
The value of acceleration due to gravity (g) at an altitude (h) is gh = g (1 - 2h/R).
Similarly the value of g at a depth (d) is gd = g(1 - d/R), where R is the radius of the earth.

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In both the cases, my book says the value of g decreases with increase in altitude and increase in depth, by quoting these equations. I don't know how to interpret this result by mere equations. Revered members can help in this regard

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logearav said:
1. Homework Statement [/
The value of acceleration due to gravity (g) at an altitude (h) is gh = g (1 - 2h/R).
Similarly the value of g at a depth (d) is gd = g(1 - d/R), where R is the radius of the earth.

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In both the cases, my book says the value of g decreases with increase in altitude and increase in depth, by quoting these equations. I don't know how to interpret this result by mere equations. Revered members can help in this regard


The gravitation of attraction of a spherical object is equal to the case when ALL the material "under you feet" is completely concentrated at the center. So just imagine the part of the Earth which is closer to the center than you are, completely collapse to the center.

When you are above Earth's surface (at attitude), the amount of material "under your feet" do not change: it consists of the whole earth, but you are moving further away, you are moving further away from the center (where they "collapsed").

When you are below Earth's surface (at depth), the amount of material "under your feet" is only a portion of the whole earth, and the portion gets smaller as you get closer to the center. So gravity also gets weaker.
 
Sir, i can't understand. Also i want to know how can we say the value of g is deceasing by the given mathematical equations. Thanks for the reply sir
 
The "universal law of gravity" is [itex]F= -(GmM)/r^2[/itex] where G is the "universal gravitational constant" (NOT "g") , m and M are the masses of the two attracting bodies and r is the distance between the centers of the two bodies. In particular, if we take M to be the mass of the Earth and R to be the radius of the earth, F= -(GM/R^2)m= -gm so that g= GM/R^2. If r= R+ h, then we have F= -GmM/(R+ h)^2.

We can, using the "generalized binomial formula", write [itex](R+h)^{-2}= R^{-2}- 2R^{-3}h+[/itex] higher order terms in h so if h is small compared to R, we can approximate [itex]-GmM/(R+ h)^2[/itex] by [itex]-GmM(R^{-2}- 2R^{-3}h= -GmM/R^2+ 2[GmM/R^{-2}](h/R)= -g(1- 2h/R).<br /> <br /> <br /> And, of course, both of the formulas have g(1 <b>minus</b> something) so as that "something" increases, g decreases.[/itex]
 
Thanks for the reply HallsofIvy.
 

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