Variational Principle on First Excited State

In summary, the conversation discusses the variational principle for the first excited state, stating that if <\psi|\psi_{gs}>=0, then <H>\geq E_{fe}. The proof involves representing the ground state and first excited state as 1 and 2, respectively, and using the fact that n\geq 2 to show that <H>\geq E_{fe}. The question is then raised about how to conclude <H>\geq E_{fe}. The answer is given as c_{1}=0.
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I am trying to prove the variational principle on 1st excited state, but have some questions here.

The theory states like this: If [tex]<\psi|\psi_{gs}>=0[/tex], then [tex]<H>\geq E_{fe}[/tex], where 'gs' stands for 'grand state' and 'fe' for 'first excited state'.

Proof: Let ground state denoted by 1, and first excited state denoted by 2, i.e., [tex]|\psi_{1}>=|\psi_{gs}>[/tex], [tex]|\psi_{2}>=|\psi_{fe}>[/tex]


[tex]<\psi|\psi_{1}>=0[/tex] ---> [tex]|\psi>=\sum^{\infty}_{n=2}c_{n}\psi_{n}[/tex]

[tex]<H>=<\psi|H\psi>=<\sum^{\infty}_{m=2}c_{m}\psi_{m}|E_{n}\sum^{\infty}_{n=2}c_{n}\psi_{n}>=\sum^{\infty}_{m=2}\sum^{\infty}_{n=2}E_{n}c^{*}_{m}c_{n}<\psi_{m}|\psi_{n}>=\sum^{\infty}_{n=2}E_{n}|c_{n}|^{2}[/tex]

Since [tex]n\geq 2[/tex], [tex]E_{n}\geq E_{2}=E_{fe}[/tex]


so [tex]<H>\geq \sum^{\infty}_{n=2}E_{fe}|c_{n}|^{2}=E_{fe}\sum^{\infty}_{n=2}|c_{n}|^{2}[/tex]


Then how to get the conclusion of [tex]<H>\geq E_{fe}[/tex], since [tex]\sum^{\infty}_{n=2}|c_{n}|^{2}=1-|c_{1}|^{2}\leq 1[/tex]?

Edit: I've got the answer. [tex]c_{1}=0[/tex]. Thx.
 
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Correct. One has
$$
\sum_{n=2}^{\infty} |c_n|^2 = 1
$$
 

1. What is the Variational Principle on First Excited State?

The Variational Principle on First Excited State is a concept in quantum mechanics that states that the expectation value of any observable for a quantum system in its first excited state is always greater than or equal to the expectation value for any other state.

2. How is the Variational Principle on First Excited State used in quantum mechanics?

The principle is used to approximate the energy of a quantum system by finding the minimum energy value of a trial wavefunction. This minimum value will always be equal to or greater than the energy of the first excited state of the system.

3. Why is the Variational Principle on First Excited State important?

The principle is important because it provides a way to approximate the energy of a quantum system without having to solve the Schrödinger equation. This is particularly useful for systems with complex potentials or interactions, where solving the equation may not be possible.

4. How does the Variational Principle on First Excited State relate to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle?

The principle is related to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle in that both are fundamental concepts in quantum mechanics. The Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that there is a limit to how accurately we can measure certain properties of a particle, while the Variational Principle on First Excited State helps us approximate the energy of a quantum system.

5. Can the Variational Principle on First Excited State be applied to any quantum system?

Yes, the principle can be applied to any quantum system, as long as a suitable trial wavefunction can be chosen. However, the accuracy of the approximation may vary depending on the complexity of the system.

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