Vector Addition for Displacement: Finding Magnitude and Direction

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a vector addition problem involving displacement, where a car travels 125 km west and then 95 km southwest. Participants are exploring how to determine the magnitude and direction of the resultant displacement vector.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the triangle method for vector addition and express uncertainty about calculating the magnitude and direction. There are attempts to break down the vectors into components using trigonometric functions, and questions arise regarding the assumption of angles, particularly whether "southwest" implies a 45-degree angle.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on component breakdown and expressing doubts about initial assumptions. Some participants are refining their understanding of the problem setup, while others are confirming their approaches based on shared insights.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the angles involved in the problem, particularly the interpretation of "southwest." Additionally, participants note the absence of explicit angles in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


I am not sure where I am having trouble here.

A car id driven 125km west and then 95km southwest. What is the mag and direction of displacement?

Homework Equations


Triangle method says that if I draw the vectors from tip to tail, the displacement vector is the vector that connects the tail of the first vector to the head of the last one.

The Attempt at a Solution

I am assuming (hopefully correctly!) that magnitude is just 230km, but I cannot sem to find direction.

If it were 125 west and 95 south of west I could figure it out, but it is 125 west and 95 southwest...so I can't use arctan can I?
 
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Wait...after looking at it again, I think the magnitude is wrong too...
 
It probably isn't correct. Split both displacements into west and south components using sin and cos. Then add the west and south components separately. Finally, you use arctan.
 
Dick said:
It probably isn't correct. Split both displacements into west and south components using sin and cos. Then add the west and south components separately. Finally, you use arctan.

I thought of that but I am not given any angles?
 
95km southwest is 95*sin(45)km west plus 95*sin(45)km south. Does that help? Your final displacement should be mostly west and some south. How much of each? So for an angle you could just say how many degrees south of west is it.
 
Wait...is it safe to assume that when they say southwest they mean exactly 45 degrees between west and south?...I am going to bank on that being the case.

Edit:Thanks Dick! It took me awhile to type that...but it appears you confirmed my idea. I should be able to get this from here.
 
So (95sin45)^2+(95cos45+125)^2=mag and the angle would be
arctan (abs value[(95sin45)/(125+95cos45)]) south of west.
 
Right. Except that's mag^2. Don't forget the sqrt.
 

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