Vector ramp question - time taken for object to slide down ramp

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The problem involves a 9.0 kg box sliding down a ramp inclined at 24 degrees, with a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.25. The objective is to determine the time taken for the box to slide 2.0 m from rest.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of forces acting on the box, including gravitational force, normal force, and frictional force. There is uncertainty regarding whether the net force calculated represents acceleration or velocity. Questions arise about the appropriate kinematic equations to use, especially since some participants have not yet covered kinematics in their coursework.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using Newton's second law to find acceleration and suggested kinematic equations for solving the time. However, there is still confusion about which equations are applicable given the participants' varying levels of familiarity with the material.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes that kinematics is the next unit in their curriculum, indicating a potential gap in knowledge that may affect their ability to fully engage with the problem.

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Homework Statement



A 9.0 kg box is sliding down a smooth flat ramp which makes an angle of 24 degrees with the horizontal. If the coefficient of kinetic friction (μ) between the box and the ramp is 0.25, how long will it take the box to slide 2.0 m down the ramp froma standing start?


Homework Equations



Fg = mg
Ff = μFn
SOH/CAH/TOA


The Attempt at a Solution



Fg= 9.0 x 9.8 =88.2 N
From a vector diagram, I solved Fn using cos(24)x88.2= 80.6 N
Therefore, Ff = 0.24 (80.6) = 20.2 N
Fd (force down the ramp parallel to ramp) = sin(24) x 88.2 = 35.9

Fnet = 35.9 - 20.2 = 15.7 N

Now to solve d=vt.

d= 2.0m

but do i use 15.7 as my velocity or is it acceleration and if so, how should I approach the calculus? Or is the velocity also 15.7 m/s because it starts at rest. If so, i divide 2 by 15.7 and get a 0.13 but the answer in my textbook is 1.5

Thanks for your help :smile:
 
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avsj said:

Homework Statement



A 9.0 kg box is sliding down a smooth flat ramp which makes an angle of 24 degrees with the horizontal. If the coefficient of kinetic friction (μ) between the box and the ramp is 0.25, how long will it take the box to slide 2.0 m down the ramp froma standing start?


Homework Equations



Fg = mg
Ff = μFn
SOH/CAH/TOA


The Attempt at a Solution



Fg= 9.0 x 9.8 =88.2 N
From a vector diagram, I solved Fn using cos(24)x88.2= 80.6 N
Therefore, Ff = 0.24 (80.6) = 20.2 N
Fd (force down the ramp parallel to ramp) = sin(24) x 88.2 = 35.9

Fnet = 35.9 - 20.2 = 15.7 N

Now to solve d=vt.

d= 2.0m

Everything up until here is correct. What you have is the net force being experienced by the block. Now, you know F=ma, so to find the acceleration you need to divide the force by the weight of the object.

Then you can solve for time using the acceleration and distance with equations of kinematics.
 
Thanks a lot :D, ... but I haven't learned the equations of kinematics yet. Could you please tell me which ones are relevant?

Kinematics is our next unit, this is a 'brain buster' at the end of my current unit.

Thanks so much
 
F= ma

15.7/9 = 1.7 acceleration

I tried d= (Vo + Vf)/2 x t

so 2 = 1.7/2 x t

t = 2.4

The correct answer is 1.5
 
Oooh,

Should I be using d= volt + .5at^2 ?

This gives me the correct answer. Great thanks chaoseverlasting :D
 

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