Is x an L-Tuple or a Member of an L-Tuple in ℝL+ Notation?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Cinitiator
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the notation ℝL+ and whether a variable x is considered an L-tuple or a member of an L-tuple. Participants are exploring the implications of this notation in the context of dimensionality and the structure of tuples.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants assert that x is an L-tuple and must have L members, while others question this interpretation, suggesting that x may instead be a column vector with L positive entries. There is also discussion about whether x being part of an L-tuple implies specific requirements for the number of members in that tuple.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with differing viewpoints being presented. Some participants provide affirmations of x being an L-tuple, while others challenge this by offering alternative definitions and interpretations. The conversation reflects a mix of agreement and exploration of different interpretations without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the definitions of tuples and vectors, particularly in the context of dimensional spaces and the requirements of positive entries in the notation ℝL+. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity regarding the structure and membership of tuples in this mathematical framework.

Cinitiator
Messages
66
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Let's say we have a notation:
gif.gif


Does it mean that x is an L-tuple? Also, if it does, does it have to have L members?
If it x isn't an L-tuple, does it mean that x belongs to an L-tuple? That is, x is inside of an L-tuple: (1, x, ... L)? And again, does it mean that that L-tuple has to have exactly L members?

Homework Equations


gif.gif

The Attempt at a Solution


Googling
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
Cinitiator said:

Homework Statement


Let's say we have a notation:
gif.gif


Does it mean that x is an L-tuple?

Yes.

Also, if it does, does it have to have L members?

Yes.

For example, typical members of \mathbb{R}^6 are x=(1,2,3,6,4,2). An element like (1,2,3) is not an element of \mathbb{R}^6.
 
Hi Cinitiator! :smile:
Cinitiator said:
Does it mean that x is an L-tuple?

Yes. :smile:
Also, if it does, does it have to have L members?

Yes!

A Cartesian product space, of L individual spaces, only has elements that are L-tuples.

If the individual spaces are all different, that's fairly obvious … it's the same even if the individual spaces are identical. :wink:
 
Hi Cinitiator,

Does it mean that x is an L-tuple?

No, x \in ℝL+ usually means that x is a column vector with L rows with real entries where the subscript + requires that all its entries are positive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Column_vector

A tuple is also a kind of array but such that the listed objects are ordered horizontally. It is usually notated like this:
L-Tupel: (n1,n2,...,nL)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple

Also, if it does, does it have to have L members?

Yes, exactly L entries (or alternatevely members)
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K