Velocity and acceleration of a particle of a fluid

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The discussion revolves around the velocity and acceleration of a particle within a fluid, specifically focusing on the relationship between current and reference configurations in a deformation context. The problem involves deriving expressions for velocity and acceleration based on given equations and conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss taking partial derivatives to find velocity and acceleration. They explore the implications of rearranging equations of motion to express reference coordinates in terms of spatial coordinates. There is an attempt to manipulate linear algebraic equations to eliminate certain terms and derive relationships between variables.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using Gaussian elimination to solve the system of equations. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of the derived expressions, particularly regarding the behavior of the solution as time approaches certain limits.

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Participants note the complexity of expressing reference coordinates solely in terms of spatial coordinates and question the assumptions underlying the equations. There is a recognition of the potential unrealistic nature of the motion as time approaches specific values.

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Homework Statement


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x = (x1,x2,x3) are the coordinates of the current configuration and X = (X1,X2,X3) are the coordinates of the reference configuration where x = y(X,t) where y is a deformation of X.

The Attempt at a Solution


(a)
taking the partial derivatives of xi with respect to t:
∂(x1)/∂t = αX2 + 2(α^2)X3*t
∂(x2)/∂t = 2(α^2)*X1*t + αX3
∂(x3)/∂t = αX1 +2(α^2)X2t

so v(X,t) = (αX2 + 2(α^2)X3*t , 2(α^2)*X1*t + αX3 , αX1 +2(α^2)X2t )
(1) v((d,d,d),0) = ( αd , αd , αd )

a(X,t) = ∂v/∂t = ( 2(α^2)X3, 2(α^2)*X1 , 2(α^2)X2 )

(2) a((d,d,d),0) = ( 2(α^2)d , 2(α^2)*d, 2(α^2)d )(b)
for this part we know that x = (d,d,d) , so we wan't to find the X that corresponds to this point so we can plug it into the functions v(X,t) and a(X,t).

rearranging the three equations of motion:
X1 = x1 - αX2t - (α^2)X3t^2 (a)
X2 = x1 - αX3t - (α^2)X1t^2 (b)
X3 = x1 - αX1t - (α^2)X2t^2 (c)

now, subbing (b) and (c) into (a) we have:

X1 = x1 - α( x1 - αX3t - (α^2)X1t^2 )t - (α^2)( x1 - αX1t - (α^2)X2t^2 )t^2

from the above it seems like like I won't be able to express X1 solely in terms of spatial coordinates because if I expand the second and third term I won't be able to get rid of X3 and X2.
Any help would be appreciated.
 
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You have 3 linear algebraic equations in three unknowns, X1, X2, and X3 corresponding to (d,d,d) @ t.
 
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Chestermiller said:
You have 3 linear algebraic equations in three unknowns, X1, X2, and X3 corresponding to (d,d,d) @ t.

Thanks for the reply,
looking at the system of equations:
d = X1 + αX2t + (α^2)X3t^2
d = X2 + αX3t + (α^2)X1t^2
d = X3 + αX1t + (α^2)X2t^2

if I begin subtracting the equations from one another to remove the d terms and then manipulating the resultant equations I will get:
Xi(terms involving α and t ) = 0 , for i =1,2,3
I'm not sure what I can say about this other than that either the Xi or () must be zero.
 
Woolyabyss said:
Thanks for the reply,
looking at the system of equations:
d = X1 + αX2t + (α^2)X3t^2
d = X2 + αX3t + (α^2)X1t^2
d = X3 + αX1t + (α^2)X2t^2

if I begin subtracting the equations from one another to remove the d terms and then manipulating the resultant equations I will get:
Xi(terms involving α and t ) = 0 , for i =1,2,3
I'm not sure what I can say about this other than that either the Xi or () must be zero.
Just use Gaussian elimination.
 
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Chestermiller said:
Just use Gaussian elimination.
Thanks again, using Gaussian elimination as you suggested I found X1,X2 and X3 all to be equal to d(1-αt)/(1-(α^3)(t^3)).
I suspect this to be the correct answer as its easy to see why when t approaches α^-1 this motion is unrealistic.
 
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