Transverse Oscillations with 3 beads

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The problem involves a light elastic string stretched horizontally with particles attached that can only move vertically. The task is to derive the equations of motion for the vertical displacements of the particles under the assumption of small displacements, leading to a specific form of the equation. The context includes considerations of tension in the string and its relationship to the displacements of the particles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster questions whether the tensions can be assumed equal due to small displacements and discusses setting up the equations of motion for each mass. They also mention a Taylor expansion related to tension and its relevance to the problem.
  • Another participant suggests that the new length of the string can be expressed in terms of displacements and Taylor expanded, emphasizing the importance of keeping linear terms.
  • Further, a participant confirms the original poster's approach and highlights the geometric approximation involved in their reasoning.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's setup and reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the assumptions made about tension and the geometric approximations involved. There is no explicit consensus, but the dialogue appears to be productive in clarifying concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about tension and the effects of small displacements on the equations of motion. The original poster is cautious about proceeding further without confirming the correctness of their work, indicating a focus on understanding before moving on.

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Homework Statement


Consider a light elastic string of unstretched length 4a0, stretched horizontally between two fixed points distance 4a apart (a>a0). There are particles of mass m attached so as to divide the string into four equal sections. We enumerate the segments from left to right, i=1 through 4. The tension Ti is proportional to its extension (a-a0), with the elastic constant being c>0.
Suppose that the particles can only move in a perpendicular direction.
Write down the equations of motion for the vertical displacements xi under the assumption that the displacements are small. Keep only linear terms in xi/a. Show that in this approximation the equation takes the form: x''+n^2Ax=0 and determine the constant coefficient n and the numerical matrix A.

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The Attempt at a Solution


First, I' d like to know if we can assume that the tensions are equal since the displacements are small.
If so, for each mass with amplitude xi, I can set up the equation of motion.

mx1''=-T*x1/a+T*(x2-x1)/a
mx2''=-T(x2-x1)/a+T(x3-x2)/a
mx3''=-T(x3-x2)/a-T*x3/a

Rearranging the equation and setting n^2=T/ma:
x1''+2n^2x1-n^2x2=0
x2''-n^2+2n^2x2-n^2x3=0
x3''-n^2x2+2n^2x3=0

which is in the form we wanted. Factoring out the n^2, we can easily find the matrix A.
In class, our professor told our class that tension T is approximately -k(xi-xi-1) by taylor expanding and that li=√[(xi-xi-1)+a^2] (l is the hypotenuse of the triangle created by the oscillation). Why are these equations relevant to the question?

The next question asks us to diagonalise A and find the general solution for x(t) but I do not want to proceed unless if I am sure that my work so far is correct.

Any comment will be appreciated!

EDIT: It seems like I get the same solution when we find Ti where Ti=xi-xi-1-(a-a0), which leads to the equation of motion mx1''=T1-T2, mx2''=T2-T3, and mx3''=T3-T4
 
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When the masses are displaced, the string becomes longer than ## 4a ##. The new length is ## l_1 + l_2 + l_3 + l_4 ##. But you can write this new length in terms of displacements divided by ## a ## and Taylor expand. Keeping the terms linear in these ratios gives the approximate expression for the new length.
 
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Homework Statement


Consider a light elastic string of unstretched length 4a0, stretched horizontally between two fixed points distance 4a apart (a>a0). There are particles of mass m attached so as to divide the string into four equal sections. We enumerate the segments from left to right, i=1 through 4. The tension Ti is proportional to its extension (a-a0), with the elastic constant being c>0.
Suppose that the particles can only move in a perpendicular direction.
Write down the equations of motion for the vertical displacements xi under the assumption that the displacements are small. Keep only linear terms in xi/a. Show that in this approximation the equation takes the form: x''+n^2Ax=0 and determine the constant coefficient n and the numerical matrix A.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


First, I' d like to know if we can assume that the tensions are equal since the displacements are small.
If so, for each mass with amplitude xi, I can set up the equation of motion.

mx1''=-T*x1/a+T*(x2-x1)/a
mx2''=-T(x2-x1)/a+T(x3-x2)/a
mx3''=-T(x3-x2)/a-T*x3/a

Rearranging the equation and setting n^2=T/ma:
x1''+2n^2x1-n^2x2=0
x2''-n^2+2n^2x2-n^2x3=0
x3''-n^2x2+2n^2x3=0

which is in the form we wanted. Factoring out the n^2, we can easily find the matrix A.
In class, our professor told our class that tension T is approximately -k(xi-xi-1) by taylor expanding and that li=√[(xi-xi-1)+a^2] (l is the hypotenuse of the triangle created by the oscillation). Why are these equations relevant to the question?
In my judgement, you set the problem up correctly by recognizing that the directions of the tensions changed but, to a good approximation, not their magnitudes. I think your professor wanted you to recognize that there was a geometric approximation involved in doing what you did when you essentially replaced the sine of an angle with the tangent of the angle (for a small angle).

Chet
 
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I agree - I just wanted to make sure the OP realized that the Taylor expanded length reduces to ## 4a ## again.
 
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