Velocity and position as functions of time

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the motion of a neutron through a material, specifically focusing on the effects of resistive forces proportional to the square of its speed. The original poster attempts to determine the velocity and position of the neutron as functions of time, given the force equation F=-bv^2.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integration process involved in deriving the position function from the velocity function. There are questions about the limits of integration and the dimensional consistency of the resulting equations.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's calculations and questioning the integration steps. Some guidance has been offered regarding the logarithmic terms and their dimensional analysis, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the derived equations.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding the integration limits and the treatment of logarithmic functions in the context of the problem. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the dimensional consistency of their position function.

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Homework Statement


Suppose that a neutron with with mass M and initial speed v0 is traveling through a material, such as graphite. As the neutron moves, it makes collisions with atoms in the material, so the faster it is moving, the more collisions it makes per unit time. Another model of the net effect of this is that the neutron experiences a resistive force proportional to the square of its speed, e.g., the force exerted by the material on the neutron goes like F=-bv^2. Determine the velocity and position of the neutron as a function of time??

Homework Equations


F=-bv^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I calculated the velocity and got v(t)= m/[bt+(m/v0)] and this makes sense dimensionally at t=0 v=v0 but when i calculated the position I got x(t)= m/b [ln(bt+(m/v0))]+C .. The problem is this does not make sense dimensionally and conceptually.
 
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Hopefully others will correct this if it is wrong. After you integrated you had limits of integration, 0 to x and 0 to t. You should be subtracting a term ln(m/v0) and as lna - lnb = ln[a/b] the units will cancel inside the ln. I think your function is OK?

Good luck!

See,

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1331961
 
im sorry where did you get the lna -lnb cause i am adding bt +(m/v0) inside the ln and i don't think you can separate the two into ln(bt) + ln(m/v0)..
 
I think you are integrating between limits, on the left side from 0 to x and on the right side from time = 0 to t. There will be a difference of two terms on the right hand side, x(t) - x(0) = something like

ln(bt+(m/v0)) - ln(b*0+(m/v0)) = ln[(bt+(m/v0))/(m/v0)]

The units cancel, that was what you were confused about?
 
I understand now thank you
 

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