Velocity comparison -- Which thrown mass hits the ground first?

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The discussion centers on the physics problem of whether two objects thrown from the same height, one downwards and the other at rest, hit the ground simultaneously when air resistance is ignored. Participants emphasize the importance of performing calculations to verify answers rather than relying on assumptions. The consensus is that without air resistance, both objects will indeed hit the ground at the same time, but the original poster's uncertainty highlights the need for clarity in problem-solving approaches.

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A person is on a bridge is an object is thrown up at 10m/s with it going to the edge of the bridge. The person throws a 2nd object 10m/s down when the 1st is at the edge. Which makes it first?
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v= d/t
On the test, I said they hit the ground simultaneously. However, that, in retrospect, doesn't seem to be the correct solution.
 
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Why don't you think that's right?
 
mathbrain9 said:
On the test, I said they hit the ground simultaneously. However, that, in retrospect, doesn't seem to be the correct solution.
What new perspective after the test made you change your mind? It is important that you figure this out because you don't want to second guess yourself when the next test comes around.
 
Does it specify whether to ignore air resistance?
 
What is the velocity of the first object at the instance you throw the second one downwards? Assume we are ignoring air resistance.

As I am unwell, I haven't done any calculations. But I think I know whether your first answer was right or wrong, and someone might do the sums for you eventually to check it.
 
DrJohn said:
someone might do the sums for you eventually to check it.
The forum rules prohibit any of us from doing those sums until the OP has done so. Meanwhile, the OP has not posted anything beyond the original post here. It would be improper to respond to "I thought the answer was X but now I am not sure" with a correct solution, a full mathematical treatment and the reasoning connecting the two. That would not be fair to the other posters who actually go to the trouble of showing their work.
 
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The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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