Velocity, Force of Friction, and Total Energy in a System Question

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The discussion centers on calculating the velocity of a 200 kg boulder falling from a height of 120.0 m while experiencing a constant frictional force of 280 N. The total gravitational potential energy is calculated as 235200 J, while the work done by friction amounts to 33600 J. After accounting for friction, the kinetic energy is determined to be 201600 J, leading to a calculated velocity of 45 m/s. However, the teacher indicates that this approach is flawed due to the assumption of constant friction, suggesting that the frictional force may vary with velocity, typical in scenarios involving air drag.

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Homework Statement


A 200 kg boulder falls from rest off a 120.0 m high cliff. If the boulder experiences a frictional force of 280 N as it falls, what would be the velocity just before it hits the ground?

Homework Equations



kinetic energy = (1/2)mv2
gravitational potential energy = mgh
work = (net force)(Δd)

The Attempt at a Solution


Total force = mgh = 200kg*9.8N/kg*120m = 235200 J

Wfriction = FΔd
Wfriction = 280 N*120 m
Wfriction = 33600 J

total energy = kinetic energy + work done by friction
kinetic energy = 235200 J - 33600 J
kinetic energy = 201600 J
201600 J = (1/2)mv2
v = 45 m/s

However, according to my teacher, this answer is incorrect.
 
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What does your notation "N" represent? If, as I suspect, it is saying that the friction force is proportional to velocity (this is typical for air drag), then your treatment of the friction as constant is not appropriate here.
 

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