Velocity of a Car Skidding: Solving for Maximum Speed on a Circular Turn

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the maximum speed of a car rounding a circular turn, considering factors such as mass, radius, and the coefficient of static friction. The original poster attempts to calculate the speed at which the car can travel without skidding.

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  • Participants discuss the application of centripetal acceleration and the relationship between force, mass, and velocity. There are attempts to clarify the correct formula for acceleration and the role of time in the calculations. Questions arise regarding algebraic manipulation and the relevance of substituting variables.

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The conversation has progressed with participants providing guidance on focusing directly on the relevant equations without unnecessary substitutions. Some participants have expressed confusion about their calculations, but there is an indication of productive direction as they refine their understanding of the problem.

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Participants mention algebra difficulties and express uncertainty about their approaches, indicating a need for clarification on the relationships between the variables involved in the problem.

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[SOLVED] Velocity of a car skidding

Homework Statement


A 2.20 103 kg car rounds a circular turn of radius 30.0 m. If the road is flat and the coefficient of static friction between the tires and the road is 0.8, how fast can the car go without skidding?



Homework Equations


Fcentripital=ma
a=v2/t
v=2πr/t

The Attempt at a Solution



So i used F=ma and substituted F with Coefficient*mass*gravity and for ma i used
m 2πr/t and solved for t. Then i used the t for the velocity equation and solved it. I got 24.0 m/s but it was wrong. What did i do wrong?
 
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a=v2/t

I believe you mean this [tex]a = \frac{v^2}{r}[/tex]

It's r for radius in the denominator, NOT t for time. This is centripetal acceleration here.

Try to solve it again.
 
Thank you soo much for pointing that out but I'm having algebra problems, so if i used
v2/r but i have no velocity so i use 2πr\t but then i have two divisions, i know this probably is a very stupid question but I'm really bad at math. so how would i put that equation to equal to t. Would it be (coefficient*m*g)/m(2πr2) ? The answer i got was completely ridiculous so I'm guessing it's wrong.
 
but i have no velocity so i use 2πr\t but then i have two divisions

But you are trying to find velocity, so there is no need to substitute something in for it. You don't need to find the time, either. Just equate the frictional force into the first equation listed in your "relevant equations" and the proper term for "a". Solve for v.
 
Thanks. i feel so retarded now that you said that. I got carried away trying to find time that i didn't even realize i was looking for velocity in the first place. So i solved for it and got 15.3 m/s correct?
 
Looks reasonable to me.
 
Thank you!
 
You're welcome. :smile:
 

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