Velocity of a vehicle through a skid

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the velocity of a vehicle that skids to a stop, with a focus on analyzing acceleration data provided at discrete time intervals. The subject area includes kinematics and the application of integration and trapezoidal methods to determine changes in velocity and average acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using trapezoidal areas to calculate changes in velocity and average acceleration. There is an exploration of different methods to reaffirm the relationship between acceleration and velocity, with questions about applying the trapezoidal method to each time interval.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their approaches and questioning how to apply methods consistently across all intervals. Some express uncertainty about specific calculations, particularly regarding the initial velocity.

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There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify how to derive the initial velocity from the given data and the implications of using the area under the acceleration curve. Participants express a mix of confidence and confusion regarding the calculations involved.

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I feel a bit silly for asking for advice with this solution since it is so basic however for the life of me I can't seem to get the answer.

1. Homework Statement


A car skids to a stop. The acceleration of a car is reported in discrete times shown below: (hint, use trapezoid areas)

t (s) a (m/s/s)
0.0 -2.0
0.4 -7.0
0.8 -6.0
1.2 -5.5
1.6 -6.0
2.0 -6.0
2.4 0.0

a) What was the change in velocity over the interval t[0.0, 0.4]?
b) How fast was the car originally going?
c) What is the average acceleration of the skid?
d) How far did the vehicle skid?

Solutions:

a) I plotted these points, found the equation of the acceleration curve from t = 0 - 0.4 to be a(t) = -12.5t - 2. I then integrated that equation over the given time interval to get my change in velocity as -1.8 m/s. This solution is correct according to the answer key.

The answer to b is 12.6 m/s. However I am more interested in the solution and how that answer was achieved since I am scratching my head on this one.All others I am confident to tackle on my own.
 
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purplemonkey said:
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a) I plotted these points, found the equation of the acceleration curve from t = 0 - 0.4 to be a(t) = -12.5t - 2. I then integrated that equation over the given time interval to get my change in velocity as -1.8 m/s.
It would have been easier to use trapezoid areas, as suggested.

Can't you repeat this for all intervals?
 
^^ agreed. I had initially thought to do this but I wanted to do it both ways to reaffirm the relationship between the acceleration and velocities. I plan on using the trapezoidal area method to calculate the average acceleration of the skid however I am still unclear how to solve for Vo in (b) using the information I have. :\
 
purplemonkey said:
I plan on using the trapezoidal area method to calculate the average acceleration of the skid
My point is that you can use the trapezoid method for each interval.

purplemonkey said:
however I am still unclear how to solve for Vo in (b) using the information I have. :\
I repeat my question: can't you repeat the calculation you did in (a) for each interval?
 
DrClaude said:
My point is that you can use the trapezoid method for each interval.I repeat my question: can't you repeat the calculation you did in (a) for each interval?
I totally missed the concept that the area under the COMPLETE curve for acceleration gives you the difference in velocity...ie if the change in velocity from the start of the braking maneuver to when the car skidded to a STOP (Vf = 0) is X m/s. Then V0 = x m/s. I feel ashamed. lol. :sorry:

Thank you for the help!
 
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