Velocity of boat in river with varying current

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the velocity of a boat in a river with a varying current. The original poster explores the relationship between the boat's velocity components and the effects of acceleration due to a curved path.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to derive equations for the boat's velocity components based on initial assumptions of constant speed and questions the implications of a curved path. Other participants question the interpretation of the variable sigma, debating whether it represents a steering angle or a velocity.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of the problem, with some participants providing insights into the assumptions made regarding the boat's motion. There is a recognition of differing understandings of the variable sigma, and the original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach after realizing the path's curvature affects the calculations.

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Participants note that the problem may involve assumptions about the constancy of certain variables, and there is a mention of imposed homework rules that may limit the exploration of certain concepts.

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I originally began by assuming the rate was constant, obtaining the equations

V_x^2 + V_y^2 = 1

\tan{\sigma} = \frac{V_y}{V_x}

with the assumptions

V_x(\sigma) = f(\sigma)
V_y(\sigma) = r + g(\sigma)

and used the above equations to solve for f and g, and ended up getting the correct result for f, i.e.

f(\sigma) = \cos{\sigma}

but did not get the right result for g(\sigma).

Then I realize that the path was CURVED, hence there had to be acceleration involved, and upon reading other parts of the question figured out that we were not supposed to make the assumption that r was constant. i.e. it turns out

r = r(x)

and I am unsure about how to deal with this to get the correct result

V_x(\sigma) = \cos{\sigma}
V_y(\sigma) = r + \sin{\sigma}

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Sigma is not the steering angle, right? Because if it was just the angle, you would not know enough to determine the velocity of the boat. So I take it sigma is the velocity of the boat relative to the water.

And if sigma is the velocity, and if I understand correctly, there is nothing to calculate. For surely, if it was not necessary for the question to say that sigma is a velocity, it was expected for you to have some physics intuition. So you can use that same intuition to supply the formulas without proof. So I would move on to part B.

I think I don't understand what the intent of the question was.
 
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Well \sigma is the steering angle... my professor told us just to assume the boat had a constant speed, which is why I introduced the formula

V_x^2 + V_y^2 = 1^2

and in thus doing so assumed the speed to simply be 1.

Can someone read the question and see if I'm interpreting something wrong here?
 
Nevermind I got it. I was overthinking it apparently...
 

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