Verify derivative of a dot product.

In summary: Alan. In summary, the conversation is about verifying the equation \frac {d(\vec w \cdot \vec v)}{dt} = \vec v \cdot \frac { d\vec w}{dt} \;+\; \vec w \cdot \frac { d\vec v}{dt} using the distributive property of the dot product and taking the derivative. The expert confirms that this method will work for verification, but for a more rigorous approach, the original method is still necessary.
  • #1
yungman
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Let [tex] \vec w(t) \;,\; \vec v (t) [/tex] be 3 space vectors that is a function of time t. I want to verify that:

[tex] \frac {d(\vec w \cdot \vec v)}{dt} = \vec v \cdot \frac { d\vec w}{dt} \;+\; \vec w \cdot \frac { d\vec v}{dt} [/tex]

I work through the verification by splitting w and v into x, y, z components, do the dot product and take the derivative to verify already. Just want to run this by the expert to confirm.

Thanks

Alan
 
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  • #2
That will work.

Note, however, that by definition, the dot product has the distributive property of multiplication:
[tex](u+du)\cdot(v+dv)=u\cdot{v}+u\cdot{dv}+v\cdot{du}+du\cdot{dv}[/tex]
For all vectors u,du,v and dv.

Thus, the result for the derivative ought to be apparent..
 
  • #3
arildno said:
That will work.

Note, however, that by definition, the dot product has the distributive property of multiplication:
[tex](u+du)\cdot(v+dv)=u\cdot{v}+u\cdot{dv}+v\cdot{du}+du\cdot{dv}[/tex]
For all vectors u,du,v and dv.

Thus, the result for the derivative ought to be apparent..

Thanks

But I don't see how

[tex](u+du)\cdot(v+dv)=u\cdot{v}+u\cdot{dv}+v\cdot{du}+du\cdot{dv}[/tex]


relate to my original question. Please explain.

Thanks

Alan
 
  • #4
It shows that a dot product works "just like" a normal product, and thus, the differentiation rule "ought" to be the same (i.e, your result).

However, for rigorous verification, you should do as you've done.
 
  • #5
Thanks
 

1. What is a derivative of a dot product?

The derivative of a dot product is a mathematical operation that calculates the rate of change of a dot product between two vectors with respect to a variable. It is commonly used in vector calculus to measure the slope of a curve or the instantaneous rate of change of a function.

2. How do you verify the derivative of a dot product?

To verify the derivative of a dot product, you can use the product rule of differentiation. This rule states that the derivative of a product of two functions is equal to the first function times the derivative of the second function plus the second function times the derivative of the first function. By applying this rule to the dot product, you can easily verify its derivative.

3. What are some properties of the derivative of a dot product?

Some properties of the derivative of a dot product include the linearity property, which states that the derivative of a linear combination of two dot products is equal to the same linear combination of the derivatives of the individual dot products. Another property is the chain rule, which states that the derivative of a dot product of two composite functions is equal to the dot product of the derivatives of the individual functions.

4. Can the derivative of a dot product be used in real-world applications?

Yes, the derivative of a dot product has many real-world applications in fields such as physics, engineering, and economics. For example, it can be used to calculate the rate of change of velocity in kinematics problems, or the marginal cost in economic analysis. It is a powerful tool for modeling and understanding complex systems.

5. Are there any limitations to the derivative of a dot product?

One limitation of the derivative of a dot product is that it only applies to vector spaces. It cannot be used for scalar quantities or non-linear functions. Additionally, the dot product must be differentiable for the derivative to be valid. However, with these limitations in mind, the derivative of a dot product is still a valuable tool for solving many problems in mathematics and science.

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