Vertical Kinematics: Solving for Jump Time

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a vertical kinematics problem involving a kangaroo's jump to a height of 2.8 meters and the time spent in the air before returning to the ground.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the setup of the kinematic equation and question the initial conditions, particularly the initial velocity (Vo) and its implications on the equation. There is discussion about rearranging the equation to solve for time and the correct application of square roots in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on how to approach the calculations. There is a recognition that the initial velocity is zero, and discussions are ongoing about the interpretation of the kinematic equation and the relationship between the time to reach the peak height and the total time in the air.

Contextual Notes

There is some uncertainty regarding the correct manipulation of the kinematic equation and the interpretation of the results, particularly in relation to the time taken to reach the maximum height versus the total time of flight.

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Homework Statement


A kangaroo jumps to a vertical height of 2.8m. How long was it in the air before returning to Earth?



Homework Equations


delta y= volt + 1/2at^2



The Attempt at a Solution


I had to get t by itself so I rearranged the equation to say: t= delta y/.5(9.8) all under a square root. First off, I'm not sure if I set up the equation correctly, and secondly, I am not sure if just the top (delta y) goes under the square root or both the top and bottom(or the whole side of the equation) goes under the square root.
 
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Not sure of your approach here. What's Vo?

Try this: Start at the top. Figure out how long it takes for the kangaroo to fall a distance of 2.8m. What would Vo be in that case? How would that time relate to the total time the kangaroo was in the air?
 
Vo in this case would be zero, I believe...and if it would be zero, then it would eliminate the first part of the equation (volt).
 
Oh, sorry, I misread your question I think. I'm not sure if I know how to figure that out.
 
sprinter08 said:
I had to get t by itself so I rearranged the equation to say: t= delta y/.5(9.8) all under a square root.
First off, I'm not sure if I set up the equation correctly, and secondly, I am not sure if just the top (delta y) goes under the square root or both the top and bottom(or the whole side of the equation) goes under the square root.

Looks ok to me :smile:

Vo = 0, and y = (1/2)at^2, so t^2 = 2y/a, so t = ± √(2y/a).

You seem to have the technique right - why are you unsure?
 
well, I was just wondering if I were to take the square of the top and then divide it by the bottom, or if I divided the top by the bottom and then took the square root. I divided the top by the bottom, and then took the square root to get .57. But then I think I would need to multiply it by 2 to get 1.14 seconds. I'm not exactly sure.
 
sprinter08 said:
Vo in this case would be zero, I believe...and if it would be zero, then it would eliminate the first part of the equation (volt).
That's right.

sprinter08 said:
Oh, sorry, I misread your question I think. I'm not sure if I know how to figure that out.
Sure you do. That's exactly what you're doing! (I don't see any volt in your final equation.)

sprinter08 said:
well, I was just wondering if I were to take the square of the top and then divide it by the bottom, or if I divided the top by the bottom and then took the square root. I divided the top by the bottom, and then took the square root to get .57. But then I think I would need to multiply it by 2 to get 1.14 seconds. I'm not exactly sure.
You divide first, then take the square root--just like you did. And the reason you need to multiply by two, is that you only solved for the time it takes to fall from the highest point (or reach the highest point). That's only half of the total time.
 
Thank you!
 

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