Very basic question about SR830 lock-in

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This discussion revolves around the use of an SR830 lock-in amplifier in an experimental setup involving a speaker and a pickup coil. Participants explore the correct methods for connecting the equipment and ensuring proper signal measurement.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on whether it is correct to connect a speaker directly to the built-in oscillator of the SR830 lock-in amplifier to drive a magnet inside a pickup coil.
  • Another participant warns against connecting a speaker directly to the oscillator, suggesting the use of a buffer amplifier instead, as the oscillator is not designed to drive such loads.
  • It is proposed that a separate function generator could be used to drive the speaker and provide a reference for the lock-in amplifier, avoiding the built-in oscillator altogether.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for damaging the SR830 inputs if a power amplifier is used, emphasizing the need for a small signal.
  • Clarification is provided that only one input of the SR830 is necessary for the measurement unless a differential measurement is intended.
  • The original poster later acknowledges a simple error in their setup regarding the coil wires and confirms that their experiment is running as expected after implementing the suggested changes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for a buffer amplifier and the use of a separate function generator, but there is no consensus on the necessity of using both inputs of the SR830 for the measurement.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of consulting the user manual for specifications and limitations of the SR830, indicating that there may be additional considerations not fully explored in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals new to using lock-in amplifiers, particularly in experimental setups involving oscillators and signal measurement.

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Apologies if this is the wrong place to post this.

I'm currently attempting to run an experiment using a SR830 lock-in amplifier but don't know much about it or electrics in general as this area is very new to me.

I'm using the in built oscillator to drive a speaker which in turn oscillates a magnet/magnetic field inside a pick up coil. I am trying to use the lock into read the output voltage/current of the coil (and find the peak amplitude) by connecting both ends to the A/I input using a BNC. Is this possible/correct? Or am I misundersanding the lock in? How should I go about doing this?

I have attempted to get help from the manual without success, any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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1)Stanford Research has useful information in the website, download the user 's manual.

2)NEVER connect a speaker to the built- in oscillator (it hasn't been designed to drive such a load), you MUST use a buffer amplifier. Again, the user's manual will give you the limits of every input and output
 
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You probably need -as Gordanius has already pointed out- some sort of buffer amplifier to drive the speaker; the oscillator output of the SR830 is a voltage output and can't really drive difficult loads. That said, since you are using a lock-in you only need a tiny signal so you do not need lots of current; i.e .do NOT use a power amplifier since you could easily blow up the inputs of the SR830. Personally, I would use a separate function generator (something that can source a few tens of mA) both to drive the speaker and as a reference for the lock in (i.e. I would not use the built in oscillator at all).

Also, it almost sounds like you are using both inputs of the SR830 which is only needed if you are doing a differential measurement; you should be able to do this measurement single-ended (i.e. just using one input). Hence, you need a BNC cable from the DUT (the speaker in this case) to the input. Just keep an eye on the polarity (i,e, where your ground is).
 
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Thank you both for your replies, they've been very helpful
It turns out I had forgotten to strip the ends of the coil wires properly, it's always the simple things!
I was also able to source a separate function generator up to the task of driving the speaker and using your set up advice, my experiment is currently running as expected.
Thanks again for all your help!
 
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