Very low accelerating objects in the universe

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The discussion revolves around identifying distant objects in the universe that exhibit extremely low acceleration, specifically on the order of 10^-250 m/s². Participants explore the feasibility of such objects existing and the implications of measuring such small accelerations in a cosmological context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the concept of acceleration in relation to inertial frames and question whether such low accelerations are observable. There are attempts to calculate examples, such as the forces between subatomic particles, and considerations of cosmological scales are raised.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various perspectives on the existence of objects with such low acceleration. Some participants suggest that measuring such small accelerations may be beyond current capabilities, while others inquire about theoretical predictions or existing observations. There is no explicit consensus, but productive lines of inquiry are being explored.

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Participants note the challenges of measuring extremely small accelerations and the potential limitations of current instruments. The discussion also touches on the need for precision in measurements and the implications of inertial frames in cosmology.

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Dear all,

I am searching for some far objects in the universe (anywhere!) that have the lowest acceleration from us. Take it for example as an unusual number like 10^-250

Is it too strange?
Do we have such things in the world?

I tried to use Proxima Centauri but it is not as slow as I want.

Can anyone help me please?
 
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shadi_s10 said:
Dear all,

I am searching for some far objects in the universe (anywhere!) that have the lowest acceleration from us. Take it for example as an unusual number like 10^-250

Is it too strange?
Do we have such things in the world?

I tried to use Proxima Centauri but it is not as slow as I want.

Can anyone help me please?

acceleration is a concept of with respect an inertial frame. that small acceleration, maybe not possible to observe, is quite possible according to me.
 
And i just calculated ... an electron and proton separated by 2.53 * 10252m
will exert force such that acceleration is 10-250 ms-2

EDIT: free charges smaller than e are not possible but however the distance will be much smaller for 2 neurons under gravitational force
 
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Thanks for your answer

However, I am looking for something in cosmological scale...
I know there are problems with the inertial frame in cosmology
but let's just talk about the acceleration with which an object is moving apart from us

any idea?
 
shadi_s10 said:
Thanks for your answer

However, I am looking for something in cosmological scale...
I know there are problems with the inertial frame in cosmology
but let's just talk about the acceleration with which an object is moving apart from us

any idea?

You forgot to put the units in the original post. Let's say they were m/s². The acceleration you're asking for is so small that I believe no instrument could measure it.
 
Isn't there even a theory or something that predicts some object would have that little acceleration?
 
shadi_s10 said:
Isn't there even a theory or something that predicts some object would have that little acceleration?
I'm not sure about that.
Also, for how much time do you want the object to accelerate at this rate? Since it's so small and you want a huge precision, I'm sure it's impossible to keep an object with such an acceleration. I'm not even sure the acceleration is a function that can take any real (of real numbers) values.
I'd wait for answers from more qualified people than me.
 
Wouldn't it be sufficient to first identify some - indeed any - distant object(s) whose acceleration or even proper motion wrt to us is zero at least to a small fraction - say, less than a few km/s? Once we identified them, we could start measuring as accurately as possible.

I'll bet the number of distant objects with an apparent proper motion of nearly zero could be counted on one hand.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Wouldn't it be sufficient to first identify some - indeed any - distant object(s) whose acceleration or even proper motion wrt to us is zero at least to a small fraction - say, less than a few km/s? Once we identified them, we could start measuring as accurately as possible.

I'll bet the number of distant objects with an apparent proper motion of nearly zero could be counted on one hand.

I agree with u.
But I really wanted to know whether some equipment has found one or not...

Does anyone know anything about a site or a professor or someone who's working with such a device, that I can get the information from?
 

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