Very simple complex powers problem

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The discussion revolves around expressing the complex power (-1)^i in the form x + iy. Participants are examining the nuances of complex exponentiation and the implications of multi-valued results in complex analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the equivalence of different expressions for (-1)^i, questioning the validity of the book's simplification to e^(-π). There is a focus on the implications of integer k in the context of complex exponentiation and the potential for multiple values.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the differences between the original poster's interpretation and the book's answer. Some participants suggest that the book may only be providing the principal value without clarifying the conditions under which it applies. The conversation indicates a productive examination of the topic, with participants sharing insights and experiences related to complex analysis.

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Participants note that the book's answers may not specify the assumption of k=0, leading to confusion regarding the multi-valued nature of the expression. There is also mention of the challenges in interpreting the results of complex exponentiation.

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Write the following in x+iy form: (-1)^i

my solution:
(-1)i = (ei(π+2πk))i = e-(π+2πk)

However, my book just states the answer as e-(π) ...but these are not the same...
 
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For integer k, sure they are. Any full turn around the unit circle doesn't change the value.
 
Muphrid said:
For integer k, sure they are. Any full turn around the unit circle doesn't change the value.

but ei2πk and e2πk are different...the first one equals 1 but the second does not...

i mean look just plug in k=1 and k=2...you get e^-3 and e^-5, which are not the same
 
Oh, okay, I see what's going on. Yeah, in this case, you may be more correct than the book is. Someone with more recent experience than I in complex analysis may know something more specific to this, though.
 
Muphrid said:
Oh, okay, I see what's going on. Yeah, in this case, you may be more correct than the book is. Someone with more recent experience than I in complex analysis may know something more specific to this, though.

oh alright. idk my book is doing this same mistake for each and every related problem. so i was thinking that i must be doing something wrong. but maybe they are just giving the answer when k=0...although they never specify this...
 
Aziza said:
Write the following in x+iy form: (-1)^i

my solution:
(-1)i = (ei(π+2πk))i = e-(π+2πk)

However, my book just states the answer as e-(π) ...but these are not the same...

Your answer is more complete than the book's. Exponentiation to a complex power can give a multivalued result. The book just gave the principal value, which, if you're asked for a single answer, is the usual value we take.
 
Aziza said:
Write the following in x+iy form: (-1)^i

my solution:
(-1)i = (ei(π+2πk))i = e-(π+2πk)

However, my book just states the answer as e-(π) ...but these are not the same...
(Those π's are hard to read !)

Sure enough.

Give WolframAlpha, \displaystyle \left(e^{\pi} \right)^{1/i} or \displaystyle \left(e^{-3\pi} \right)^{1/i}\,, and it gives -1.

Of course, \displaystyle e^{-3\pi}\approx 0.0000806995175703\,, \displaystyle e^{-\pi}\approx 0.04321391826377226\,, \displaystyle e^{\pi}\approx 23.140692632779263\,,

So it looks like \displaystyle (-1)^i=e^{(\text{odd integer multiple of }\pi)}\ .
 

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