Very simple conversion problem

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The original poster attempts to convert a measurement of torque from pound-feet to Newton-meters, specifically converting 20 lb*ft to the equivalent in N*m. The discussion revolves around unit conversion and the relationships between different units of force and distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conversion factors between pounds and Newtons, as well as feet and meters. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the units, particularly the distinction between force per distance and force times distance. There is also a mention of writing out conversions step by step for clarity.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring various interpretations of the units involved. Some guidance on unit conversion methods has been offered, and there is an acknowledgment of the importance of writing out conversions clearly. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster references a specific format used in an online statics problem, which may influence their understanding of the conversion process. There is also a mention of a potential confusion regarding the relationship between force and distance in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


convert 20lb*ft to Newton*meters


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this is driving me nuts...so if 1lb= 4.448N, then we have 4.448*20 N*ft, and if there are 3.2808ft in one meter, then we should have 4.448*20*3.2808 N*m! so why is the answer instead 27.116
 
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If there are 3.2808 ft in one meter, then how many meters are in one foot?
 
1/3.2808... but what's weirding me out is something i just noticed...i mean if there is that much force per foot, then shouldn't there be more force per meter?
 
It's not force per distance but force times distance. [Note added: 20 lb per ft would be written 20 lb/ft, but you have 20 lb*ft]
 
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that's actually how they wrote the problem in my online statics thing- exactly like i did (except with the multiplication dot in the middle which i don't know how to make here)
 
oh i see that's what you're saying, so what would a proper conversion look like step by step here?
 
A very simple foolproof trick for converting units is to write the conversion factor with units, and then to cancel out units as if they were algebraic variables.

20 (ft)(lb)=20 (ft)(lb)\frac{3.448(N)}{1(lb)} \frac{1(m)}{3.2808(ft)}= 27.116(N)(m)
 
okay, thank you : ) i guess I've just never really taken the time to write out proper conversions- i should probably start with that. so the unit you want goes on top, like meters/feet instead of feet/meters, right? and you mean 4.448 N per pound, i think?
 
coffeebird said:
okay, thank you : ) i guess I've just never really taken the time to write out proper conversions- i should probably start with that. so the unit you want goes on top, like meters/feet instead of feet/meters, right? and you mean 4.448 N per pound, i think?
Yes. That's right. I always do conversions this way, and it has never failed me in 50 years of experience.
 
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Coffeebird, you may not need it but there are lots of tutorials on the web for converting units. More on Chestermiller's method here. (Annoying music thrown in for free.)
 

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