Visualizing the Motion of Two Crossing Wires

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The problem involves two current-carrying wires that intersect at right angles, with one wire carrying current horizontally and the other vertically. The discussion centers on understanding the motion of the wires based on their magnetic interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore various interpretations of how the wires might move based on their currents and magnetic fields. There is a focus on visualizing the magnetic fields created by each wire and how these fields influence the motion of the other wire.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning each other's reasoning and attempting to clarify the relationships between the currents and the resulting magnetic fields. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to visualize the magnetic fields, but no consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation of the motion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion about the terminology and the implications of the wires' movements. There is an emphasis on the need to draw the magnetic fields and analyze the forces acting on each wire, indicating a potential gap in understanding the underlying physics.

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Homework Statement



Two current carrying wires cross at right angles (like a + sign).

Wire 1 has current directed horizontally to the left. Wire 2 has current directed vertically up.

If the wires are not restrained, what statement best describes the motion of the wires?

A) Wire 1 moves out of the page; Wire 2 moves into the page
B) Wire 1 rotates clockwise; Wire 2 rotates counterclockwise
C) Wire 1 rotates counterclockwise; Wire 2 rotates clockwise
D) Wire 1 moves up; Wire 2 moves to the left
E) Wire 1 moves down; Wire 2 moves to the right

The Attempt at a Solution



The wires will rotate until the magnetic fields are in the same direction. Therefore I think Wire 1 will move up and Wire 2 moves to the left.

Have I visualized it correctly?
 
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Hi 05holtel! :smile:

I think you're misunderstanding the terminology …

if wire 1 moves up and wire 2 moves to the left, then they're moving parallel to themselves, and the field directions won't change.
 
Oh Yeah,oops

Rotating Wire 1 clockwise and Wire 2 counterclockwise would make the magnetic fields go in the same direction. Correct?
 
05holtel said:
Oh Yeah,oops

Rotating Wire 1 clockwise and Wire 2 counterclockwise would make the magnetic fields go in the same direction. Correct?

come on … you're just guessing aren't you? :wink:

Rotating Wire 2 clockwise and Wire 1 counterclockwise would also make the magnetic fields go in the same direction, wouldn't it?

So which one is correct, and why? :smile:
 
I am really confused still,

I know I have to draw first the magnetic field that Wire 1 makes at the points shown on Wire 2. Use those magnetic fields and the current of Wire 2 to find the forces on Wire 2. Repeat the same procedure for the magnetic field that Wire 2 makes at the points shown on Wire 1. Use this now to find the forces on Wire 2.

I am not getting any of the suggested solutions
 

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