Visualizing x(u,v): A Solution Requested

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The discussion revolves around the image of the mapping defined by x(u,v) = (cos u*cos v, cos u*sin v, sin u), where u and v are constrained within specific ranges. Participants explore the geometric interpretation of this mapping, particularly in relation to its representation in three-dimensional space.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance in understanding the image of the mapping x(u,v).
  • Another participant suggests that the image is the unit sphere, drawing an analogy to Earth’s coordinates defined by latitude and longitude.
  • A participant questions how to demonstrate that the image is indeed a sphere, noting that varying v while fixing u results in a circle at constant latitude.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the nature of the sphere, emphasizing that it refers to a sphere with radius 1, not unit speed.
  • Another participant provides a mathematical derivation showing that x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 1, supporting the claim that the image is the surface of a sphere centered at the origin.
  • One participant connects the parameterization to spherical coordinates, suggesting a relationship between the variables used in the mapping and standard spherical coordinate notation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the image of the mapping is a sphere of radius 1. However, there are varying levels of detail and methods proposed for demonstrating this conclusion, indicating some uncertainty in the explanation process.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the best way to show that the image is a sphere, and there are different approaches to understanding the parameterization in relation to spherical coordinates.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in geometric interpretations of mappings in three-dimensional space, particularly in the context of spherical coordinates and their applications in physics and mathematics.

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can somebody give a solution to wat the image of x(u,v)=(cos u*cos v,cos U*sin v, sin u) is? where

x:U ->R^3
u,v is an element of R^2 such that -pi/2 < u < pi/2, -pi < v < pi

help appreciated greatly
thank you
 
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Hi niall14, welcome to PF :smile:

niall14 said:
can somebody give a solution to wat the image of x(u,v)=(cos u*cos v,cos U*sin v, sin u) is? where

x:U ->R^3
u,v is an element of R^2 such that -pi/2 < u < pi/2, -pi < v < pi

help appreciated greatly
thank you

It is the unit sphere.
Think of coordinates on earth, defined by latitude (u) and longitude (v).

Cheers!
 
thanks, but how did i show it is a sphere, i can work out it is unit speed?
 
niall14 said:
thanks, but how did i show it is a sphere, i can work out it is unit speed?

If you pick any u, and vary v, you'll find you have a circle of the form (r cos v, r sin v, z).
Just like any circle of constant latitude on earth.

Equivalenty you can find the circles through the poles with constant longitude (v).

Btw, with unit sphere I did not mean unit speed.
I meant it's a sphere with radius 1.
 
niall14 said:
can somebody give a solution to wat the image of x(u,v)=(cos u*cos v,cos U*sin v, sin u) is? where

x:U ->R^3
u,v is an element of R^2 such that -pi/2 < u < pi/2, -pi < v < pi

help appreciated greatly
thank you
If (x, y, z) is in the image then x= cos(u)cos(v), y= cos(u)sin(v), z= sin(v) for some u and v.
x^2+ y^2+ z^2= cos^2(u)cos^2(v)+ cos^2(u)sin^2(v)+ sin^2(v)
= (cos^2(u)+ sin^2(u))cos^2(v)+ sin^2(v)= cos^2(v)+ sin^2(v)= 1

Since x^2+ y^2+ z^2= 1 the image is the surface of the ball with center (0, 0, 0) and radius 1.

As I Like Serena said, this parameterization is just "spherical coordinates",
x= \rho cos(\theta) sin(\phi)
y= \rho sin(\theta) sin(\phi)
z= \rho cos(\phi)[/itex]<br /> with &quot;u&quot; instead of &quot;\theta&quot;, &quot;\pi- v&quot; instead of \phi (to change the cosine to sine and vice-versa) and \rho set equal to 1.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Since x^2+ y^2+ z^2= 1 the image is the surface of the ball with center (0, 0, 0) and radius 1.

Good call! :smile:
 

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