Voltage generated by a vibrating coil around a magnet

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the voltage generated by a vibrating coil around a magnet, particularly in the context of dynamic microphones. Participants explore how frequency and amplitude of vibration relate to the generated voltage, as well as the necessary information about the coil and magnet to establish this relationship.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the function of voltage generated by a vibrating coil as a function of frequency and amplitude, seeking necessary information about the coil and magnet.
  • Another participant suggests that knowledge of the magnetic field produced by the magnet is essential to calculate how the magnetic flux changes through the coil, indicating that voltage is time-dependent and influenced by various factors including geometry.
  • A participant expresses interest in the conversion rate between sound wave amplitudes and frequencies to electric signals in dynamic microphones, emphasizing a desire for a direct relationship without using decibels.
  • Another participant notes that the conversion rate is likely influenced by the inertia of oscillating masses within the microphone system.
  • Concerns are raised about the complexity of determining these relationships, suggesting that measuring voltages may be necessary and that numerical simulations might be required even with known fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact relationship between voltage, frequency, and amplitude, and multiple competing views regarding the necessary information and methods to determine these relationships remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the problem, noting that assumptions about the magnetic field, coil geometry, and system inertia may significantly affect the outcomes. There is also an acknowledgment of the potential need for numerical simulations and experimental measurements.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying electromagnetic induction, audio engineering, and the design of dynamic microphones, as well as individuals exploring the relationship between mechanical vibrations and electrical signals.

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Can I get the voltage generated by a vibrating coil around a magnet as a function of the frequency and amplitude of the vibration (given all necessary informations about the coil and magnet)? What would that function be? Also, what information about the coil and magnet would be sufficient and necessary to make this voltage a function of just the amplitude and frequency of the vibration?

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You will need to know the magnetic field produced by the magnet so you can calculate how the flux changes through your coil.
The voltage will be a function of time. The amplitude will depend on the frequency and amplitude of vibration as well as the magnetic field . And geometry of the coil, too.
 
I was actually wondering about the rate of conversion between amplitudes and frequencies of sound waves and electric signals when the conversion is done by a dynamic microphone. Like if I was talking in a certain frequency with a certain amplitude into one of these microphones what would be the voltage measured on the other end (without amplification)? Preferably without talking in terms of decibels, since I want the relationship between frequencies, amplitudes and voltage.. talking in terms of decibels would just be an unnecessary mid-step.

Also, all the information about the magnet and the coil would be that of a magnet and coil inside a regular dynamic microphone (which I can't find references anywhere).
 
V0ODO0CH1LD said:
I was actually wondering about the rate of conversion between amplitudes and frequencies of sound waves and electric signals when the conversion is done by a dynamic microphone.
That rate of conversion should mostly depend on inertia of oscillating masses in the system
 
V0ODO0CH1LD said:
Also, all the information about the magnet and the coil would be that of a magnet and coil inside a regular dynamic microphone (which I can't find references anywhere).
Then I am afraid you will have to measure the voltages in order to find these relationships.
Anyway, it will be probably quite complicated even if you know the fields and you will end up by doing numerical simulations.
 

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