Volume of a solid of revolution around the y-axis (def. integration)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a solid of revolution generated by rotating a region defined by the curves \(y=e^x\), \(x=0\), \(x=1\), and \(y=0\) around the y-axis. Participants explore different methods of integration, particularly focusing on the use of definite integrals and the shell method.

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  • Participants discuss the original poster's approach using the inverse function and definite integrals, noting potential mistakes in the evaluation of integrals. Some suggest using the shell method as an alternative, highlighting its simplicity.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different integration techniques, with some participants providing guidance on evaluating integrals and suggesting alternative methods. The original poster acknowledges a mistake in their calculations and expresses intent to adopt a different approach.

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Participants mention the complexity of certain integrals, such as \(\int_{1}^{e} \ln^2 y \, dy\), and the original poster's lack of familiarity with definite integrals in geometric contexts, which may influence their approach.

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Homework Statement
Calculate the volume of the solid generated by rotating around the y-axis the plane region delimited by curves:
##y=e^x##
##x=0##
##x=1##
##y=0##
Relevant Equations
Definite integrals definition
First, I calculated the inverse of ##y=e^x## since we're talking about y-axis rotations, which is of course ##x=lny##.
Then, helping myself out with a drawing, I concluded that the total volume of the solid must've been:
$$V=\pi\int_{0}^{1}1^2 \ dy \ +(\pi\int_{1}^{e}1^2 \ dy \ - \pi \int_{1}^{e}ln^2y \ dy)$$
However this leads me to a wrong result; I must be getting something wrong, probably in the second integration(from 1 to e)...
 
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greg_rack said:
Homework Statement:: Calculate the volume of the solid generated by rotating around the y-axis the plane region delimited by curves:
##y=e^x##
##x=0##
##x=1##
##y=0##
Relevant Equations:: Definite integrals definition

First, I calculated the inverse of ##y=e^x## since we're talking about y-axis rotations, which is of course ##x=lny##.
Then, helping myself out with a drawing, I concluded that the total volume of the solid must've been:
$$V=\pi\int_{0}^{1}1^2 \ dy \ +(\pi\int_{1}^{e}1^2 \ dy \ - \pi \int_{1}^{e}ln^2y \ dy)$$
However this leads me to a wrong result; I must be getting something wrong, probably in the second integration(from 1 to e)...
If you integrate using shells, the integral is much simpler. With this method, the typical volume element is ##\Delta V = 2\pi \text{radius} \cdot \text{height} \cdot \text{width} = 2\pi x e^x \Delta x##. The shells run from x = 0 to x = 1.
 
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To me, your equation for the volume ##V## looks fine, so if you don't get the correct solution I think you may have made a mistake later during your evaluation of the integrals. In particular, the integral ##\int_{1}^{e}ln^2y \ dy## looks a little nasty. Have you tried partial integration?

Otherwise, Mark44 gives a nice alternative way to solve for ##V##. That integral might look intimidating at first, but it has the advantage that its solution can usually be found in "cheat sheets".
 
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hicetnunc said:
To me, your equation for the volume ##V## looks fine, so if you don't get the correct solution I think you may have made a mistake later during your evaluation of the integrals. In particular, the integral ##\int_{1}^{e}ln^2y \ dy## looks a little nasty. Have you tried partial integration?

Otherwise, Mark44 gives a nice alternative way to solve for ##V##. That integral might look intimidating at first, but it has the advantage that its solution can usually be found in "cheat sheets".
Yup, I have managed to solve the integral by parts... and my procedure was actually correct; I only forgot to multiply a term by ##\pi## :oops:

I gave this problem a chance by mere intuition, without having yet studied definite integrals for such geometrical applications, and I believe that's why the method I came up with looks anything but convenient!
Definitely going to go with @Mark44's :)

Thanks guys
 
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