Volume of Solid of Revolution for y=x^2-2, y=0 about y=-1

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid of revolution formed by rotating the area bounded by the curves y=x²-2 and y=0 about the line y=-1. The original poster expresses uncertainty regarding the selection of bounds and the integration method, particularly whether to integrate in terms of x or y.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the appropriate bounds for integration and the method to use, with suggestions to consider splitting the range of x into two integrals. There is also a consideration of whether to integrate in terms of y instead of x, and questions arise about the implications of using different methods such as cylindrical shells.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of different integration methods, with some participants suggesting visual aids like sketches to clarify the problem. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of cylindrical elements and the need to consider the radius of rotation in relation to the variable y-coordinate.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that certain terminology related to integration methods was not covered in their lectures, leading to some confusion. There is also mention of needing to account for the specific characteristics of the cylindrical elements being used in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Find the volume of the solid of revolution obtained by rotating the area bounded by the curves about the line indicated.
y=x2-2, y=0 about y=-1. Need only consider part above y=-1

Homework Equations


V=∏ab[f(x)]2dx


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm mainly unsure of my solution, as it gives me an answer but I feel that my bounds aren't selected properly.
Roots: -√2 to √2
V=∏-√2 √2[(x-1)2-(-1)2]dx
I get an answer of 21.91 u3, but as I'm working in the negative y I feel like the y upper and y lower I've selected aren't correct as the parabola is not above the line. Should I integrate in terms of x instead?
 
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Did you sketch the region? Looks to me like a horizontal cylinder, axis y=-1, with a dimple in the right hand end (positive x end). That means the bounds for y depend on x. Split the range of x into two integrals.
 
californicate said:

Homework Statement


Find the volume of the solid of revolution obtained by rotating the area bounded by the curves about the line indicated.
y=x2-2, y=0 about y=-1. Need only consider part above y=-1

Homework Equations


V=∏ab[f(x)]2dx


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm mainly unsure of my solution, as it gives me an answer but I feel that my bounds aren't selected properly.
Roots: -√2 to √2
V=∏-√2 √2[(x-1)2-(-1)2]dx
I get an answer of 21.91 u3, but as I'm working in the negative y I feel like the y upper and y lower I've selected aren't correct as the parabola is not above the line. Should I integrate in terms of x instead?

Do you mean should you integrate in terms of y instead? I would say a ##dy## integral would be easier. Use shells. As Haruspex suggests, draw a picture if you haven't already.
 
So, if integrating in terms of y, I would integrate x=sqrt(y+2) from -1 to 0?, So my final integral is pi (integral from -1 to 0) (sqrt(y+2))^2 dy?
 
californicate said:
So, if integrating in terms of y, I would integrate x=sqrt(y+2) from -1 to 0?, So my final integral is pi (integral from -1 to 0) (sqrt(y+2))^2 dy?
No. This is the cylinder method. Each cylinder has length x, but what is its surface area?
 
We didn't use terms like by shells and by cylinders in lecture so I'm trying to follow along, but since if I'm doing by cylinders would I then require the constant to be 2pi?
 
californicate said:
We didn't use terms like by shells and by cylinders in lecture so I'm trying to follow along, but since if I'm doing by cylinders would I then require the constant to be 2pi?
Yes, there's a 2π in there, but that's not the only error in your integral.
Your cylindrical element has y=-1 as axis. It is dy thick. What are its length and circumference?
 
It's radius is 1, so it's circumference is 2pi. It's length is 2x, so 2sqrt(y+2)?
 
californicate said:
It's radius is 1, so it's circumference is 2pi. It's length is 2x, so 2sqrt(y+2)?

That's right for the length of the ##dy## element. But it is at a variable y-coordinate ##y## and it is being rotated about ##y=-1## so its radius of rotation isn't ##1## and its circumference isn't ##2\pi##. It depends on ##y##.
 

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