Find the volume of the solid of revolution.

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid of revolution formed by rotating the area bounded by the curves y = x² - 2 and y = 0 about the line y = -1, focusing on the portion above y = -1.

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  • Participants discuss the radius of revolution and the definitions of y_upper and y_lower in the context of the problem. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the radius of rotation and the reasoning behind certain expressions used in the solution.

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Several participants are exploring the definitions of the upper and lower bounds in relation to the radius of revolution. There is engagement in clarifying the reasoning behind the expressions used in the solution, with some participants offering insights into the geometric interpretation of the problem.

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Participants are questioning the assumptions regarding the bounds of integration and the setup of the problem, particularly in relation to the curves and the line of rotation. There is an acknowledgment of the potential confusion stemming from the solution's notation.

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Homework Statement


Problem:
Find the volume of the solid of revolution obtained by rotating the area bounded by the curves y = x^2 – 2 and y = 0 about the line y = -1. Consider only that part above y = -1.

Solution:
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Integration.

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I get everything the solution did except for the part with the PQ = 1 - |y| = 1 - (-y) = 1 + y = y + 1.

Could someone please explain that part for me?

Any input would be greatly appreciated!
 

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It is just the radius of revolution of the dydx element, : ##y_{upper}-y_{lower}=y -(-1)##.
 
Sorry, I double-posted.
 
Y_lower = the line about which we are rotating, right?

As for the upper part of the radius, I don't see why y_upper = y.
 
s3a said:
Y_lower = the line about which we are rotating, right?

As for the upper part of the radius, I don't see why y_upper = y.

You have a little dydx square located at the variable point (x,y) in the interior of your area that you are integrating over the area. It is the distance from that variable (x,y) point to the line y = -1 that is the radius of revolution.
 
Why is ##y_upper## = y (a variable) if the parabola is bounded above by a constant function (y = 0)?

Why isn't it ##y_upper – y_lower## = 0 - (-y) = y (such that the third dimension of the volume is 2π × y instead of 2π × (y + 1))?

Also, why does the solution say 1 - |y| = 1 - (-y) = 1 + y = y + 1 instead of y - (-1) = y + 1? (I know the final answer is the same; I'm asking about the difference in getting to the final answer.)
 
s3a said:
Why is ##y_{upper}## = y (a variable) if the parabola is bounded above by a constant function (y = 0)?

You want the radius of rotation of the little dydx square. You want its distance from ##y=-1##.

Why isn't it ##y_{upper} – y_{lower}## = 0 - (-y) = y (such that the third dimension of the volume is 2π × y instead of 2π × (y + 1))?

We are talking about the upper and lower ends of the radius of rotation. The upper end is at the dydx square and the lower end is ##y=-1##.

Also, why does the solution say 1 - |y| = 1 - (-y) = 1 + y = y + 1 instead of y - (-1) = y + 1? (I know the final answer is the same; I'm asking about the difference in getting to the final answer.)

I have no idea why he wrote it that way.
 
s3a said:
Also, why does the solution say 1 - |y| = 1 - (-y) = 1 + y = y + 1 instead of y - (-1) = y + 1? (I know the final answer is the same; I'm asking about the difference in getting to the final answer.)
I'd guess that the way the person who wrote the solution was thinking about it is that the distance from the line y=-1 to the point (x,y) is 1, the distance between the x-axis and the line y=-1, minus |y|, the distance from (x,y) to the x-axis.
 
Thanks guys, I get it now! :)
 

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