Wanted: Instructions for Leybold PGA 100 mass spectrometer

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Leybold PGA 100 mass spectrometer, specifically seeking alignment instructions for the instrument and its gauge head. Participants explore the availability of these instructions, share experiences with the device, and discuss troubleshooting methods related to its operation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Michael seeks alignment instructions for the Leybold PGA 100 mass spectrometer, indicating that he is willing to pay for a photocopy of the supplement mentioned in the manual.
  • Some participants question why Michael would need to pay, suggesting that the information might be available online or through the manufacturer.
  • Michael clarifies that he has already searched online and contacted the manufacturer without success, noting the age of the instrument.
  • One participant requests a copy of the manual's cover page and the section mentioning the alignment supplement to assist in the search.
  • Another participant shares links to similar manuals but notes they are not applicable due to differences in the instruments.
  • Michael describes issues with the mass spectrum readings, indicating that adjustments are needed due to the complexity of the HF module with 14 potentiometers.
  • Participants share their experiences with tuning similar instruments, with one suggesting further online searches for potential resources.
  • Michael reports success in repairing the defect and adjusting the potentiometers, leading to both mass spectrometers functioning correctly.
  • Other participants congratulate Michael on his success and share light-hearted comments about the repair process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the difficulty of finding the alignment instructions and share a common interest in troubleshooting the mass spectrometer. However, there is no consensus on the availability of the instructions or the best approach to obtain them.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the challenges associated with older instruments and the reliance on community knowledge for troubleshooting and obtaining documentation. Specific assumptions about the availability of resources and the condition of the instruments are present but not resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals working with older mass spectrometers, those interested in instrument repair and maintenance, and members of the scientific community seeking troubleshooting advice may find this discussion relevant.

Michael Koch
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I have a Leybold PGA 100 mass spectrometer, including the instruction manual. The instrument is paired with a gauge head. If either the instrument or the gauge head is exchanged, then an alignment is required. It's mentioned in the instruction manual there exists a supplement, which contains the alignment instructions. Does anybody have these alignment instructions? I'm ready to pay for a photocopy.
Thanks,
Michael
 
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Why would you have to pay? Is it not available online? How about from the company?
 
I wouldn't ask here if I hadn't already tried Google and the manufacturer. It's an old instrument and out of service for many years.
 
Can you post a copy of the cover page of the manual you have, and also a shot of where is mentions the alignment supplement? That might help us to try to look for it. Also paging @dlgoff @davenn @jim hardy
 
Here is the cover page of the manual and the second page, where the required supplement is mentioned.
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Michael Koch said:
I wouldn't ask here if I hadn't already tried Google and the manufacturer.

no probs, :smile: @berkeman had to ask the obvious, as a VERY high percentage of people ask here without ever doing any searches on even the most basic things

Michael Koch said:
Here is the cover page of the manual and the second page, where the required supplement is mentioned.

Thanks for that ...
I searched through a few old manual repositories that I am familiar with and didn't have any luck either
even searched youtube :rolleyes:

the only way you may get info is from some one who has one of these units

best of luck

Dave
 
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Unfortunately these manuals aren't close enough. The leak detectors have a mass separator with a magnetic field, and they are tuned only for helium with mass 4. However the PGA 100 has a quadrupole separator and is tunable from mass 1 to 99. I have two PGA 100 instruments and one of them is defect. The measuring head was paired with the instrument that is now dead. When I use the working instrument with this head, then the mass spectrum is off by about one. The Argon peak is shown at 41, instead of 40 where it should be. The HF module has 14 potentiometers for adjustment. That's why I really need the instruction supplement. If there were only 2 or 3 potentiometer, I would simply try them out.
Michael
 
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Michael Koch said:
The HF module has 14 potentiometers for adjustment.
Ouch! About 50 yrs ago I tuned a large Helium Leak Detector, which is rather simple... it took only a couple hours! You have a head start on yours, it's "only off by a little bit." :wink:

Try a search for Leybold PGA 100 using duckduckgo.com. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=leybold+pga+100
Of course the first hit is this thread! But if you read the results you will find an outfit in Germany that does servicing and further down the list there are several papers that mention they used that model in their research. As @davenn suggested above, hopefully you can find someone that is willing to send you a copy of the needed manual.

Good Luck! And keep us posted.
Tom
 
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I did already contact the servicing company in Germany last week, but got no reply so far. May be they don't want to share the manual.
 
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Good news. The repair was successful. The defect component revealed itself by a smoke signal.
Michael

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I also figured out which of the 14 potentiometers must be adjusted for shifting the mass result. Now my two mass spectrometers are both working fine and have the peaks exactly where they should be.
Michael
 
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Nothing like the sweet taste of success Congratulations! This is how we learn. Look how much more you know about your machine now.
 
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Gotta love that smoke. :thumbup:
 
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That's the 'good' thing about Tantalum capacitors, their failure is spectacular! (assuming a hefty enough power supply.)

Congratulations!
 
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