Water valve for a cylindrical container

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The discussion centers on designing a water valve mechanism for a cylindrical container, specifically focusing on the actuation of a valve to quickly release water through a small hole. A participant suggests using a ball valve with automatic control, capable of opening and closing in 0.25 seconds. Key considerations include the design of the valve seating surface, material compatibility, and actuation forces. Alternative designs proposed include a horizontal hole with a vertically oriented bar and a cylindrical bar that rotates to cover or uncover the hole, both of which require careful guidance to prevent leakage.

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I need help designing a mechanism for quickly releasing water through a tiny hole on one end of a thin cylindrical pole by a switch/button/etc on the other end. I have thought of one way to do this and drew an illustration, which is in the attachment. But I'm not sure if when the bar is covering the hole, whether it will be watertight or not. If anyone knows of a way I can improve this idea or if anyone has other ideas, let me know.
 

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Get a ball valve with an automatic control on it. I just assembled one today that can slam the valve open and close in .25 seconds.
 
Hi Quincy,
I think all you're trying to do is make a valve that is integral with a water reservoir. Your idea will work in theory, but it requires proper design of the valve seating surface and guidance of the bar. Like any valve, there are many aspects you need to look at such as seating loads, material compatibility, stresses, actuation forces, etc... I would consider your idea and any idea like it to be the starting point and go from there. So the first thing you should do in designing ANY mechanical device is to consider various ways it can be done and try to understand what the benefits and drawbacks are that are inherent to the various designs. In this case, the benefit might be simplicity and the potential to make the seating surface pressure energized. Drawbacks might include the fact the bar will be drawn across the seating surface which has the potential of scoring the surface and allowing leakage. I'll toss out a few other ideas...

You might have a design with the hole being horizontal instead of vertical and have the valve stem (bar) oriented directly above the hole so pushing down covers the hole and lifting up exposes it (or visa versa if you wanted). This design can be pressure energized or pressure balanced. The bar would of course be guided. The bar could have an actuator (automatic or manual) that pushed directly down on it or the actuator could be a screw type mechanism such as most common globe valves have.

Another option would be to make the bar cylindrical with a hole in it like a ball valve and guide the end so that rotating the cylindrical bar covers or uncovers the hole. Like ball valves, and the valve you suggested, the seat can be pressure energized but consideration must be given to scoring the seat.
 

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