Wave Function for 1000 Particles in a Box

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The discussion revolves around a system of 1000 particles in a one-dimensional box, focusing on constructing a wave function and determining the number of particles in the right half of the well. The problem involves concepts from quantum mechanics, specifically wave functions and particle distributions based on energy states.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the construction of the wave function and question the coefficients used in the wave function representation. There are discussions about the implications of particle distribution and the potential for asymmetry in the particle count across the box.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to clarify the probabilities associated with different energy states and how they relate to the total number of particles in each half of the box. Some participants express uncertainty about the calculations and the assumptions made regarding the symmetry of the system.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the nature of the box as a one-dimensional infinitely deep well and consider the implications of this setup on their calculations. There is mention of integrating over specific limits to find the number of particles in a defined region.

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Homework Statement



At the instant t=0, there's a system with 1000 particles in a box of length a. It is known that 100 have energy 4E1 and 900 have energy 225E1, where E1 is the energy of the fundamental state.

i) Build a wave function that can represent the state of a particle

ii) How many particles are in the right half of the well? [a/2 , a]

Homework Equations



i) \Psi(x,t) = \Sigma C_{n} \varphi_{n} (x) e^{-i n^{2}wt} (1)

P(E_{n}) = |C_{n}|^{2} (2)ii) P(t) = \int |\Psi|^{2}| dx (3)
Number of particles = N_{total} P(t) (4)

The Attempt at a Solution



i) \Psi (x,t) =\frac{1}{3} \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}} sin(\frac{4 \pi x}{a}) e^{i 16 wt} + \frac{3}{\sqrt{10}} \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}} sin(\frac{225 \pi x}{a}) e^{i 50625 wt}

ii) I need to know if the formula (4) is right Thanks in advance.
 
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i) What is the ##{1\over 3}## and the ##{3\over \sqrt{10}}## ?

ii) Is there a way there can be an asymmetry that causes the answer to differ from 500 ?
You know the ##\phi_n## are orthonormal, right ?​
 
i) the squares of 1/9 and 9/10, which are the probabilities of a particle having energy 4E1 or 225E1.

ii) I just have to integrate (3) with the limits a/2 and a, no?
 
i) Yeah, well, the 1/9 is probably 1/10 . And the square of 1/9 is 1/81 (:smile: -- it pays to be a nitpicker in physics...)

ii) Yes. But you already know that the cross term gives 0. And squaring gives you even functions, so a/2 -- a should be the same as 0 -- a/2 Or am I wrong ?
 
i) I meant square root, sorry. I don't know where the hell I got that 1/9 for the probability from, it should be 1/10 yes.

ii) yes you are right , that means what? there are 250 particles on each half?

Thank you for the help so far.
 
I wouold guess that with a total of 1000 particles there are 500 in the right half. PS is it a 3D box or a 1 D infinitely deep well ?

Would be interesting to calculate the standard deviation in that 500 for an observation period of 1 femtosecond...
 
1D infinitely deep well. I'll try to do some calculations on my own now.

Thank you, have a good night(or day) sir.
 

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