Wavefunction in the energy representation

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The problem involves finding the wavefunction in the energy representation for a given linear combination of normalized energy eigenfunctions, specifically the ground and second excited states. The original poster presents the wavefunction in position space and seeks clarification on its representation in terms of energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the wavefunction in energy representation, with some suggesting it is already in that form. Others propose that it may involve expressing the wavefunction as a function of energy, drawing analogies to position space representations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have offered insights regarding completeness of states and the potential use of delta functions or Kronecker deltas in the energy representation. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive lines of reasoning are being developed.

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Participants are grappling with the concept of representing wavefunctions in different bases and the implications of completeness in quantum mechanics. There is uncertainty regarding the appropriate mathematical representation and the nature of the coefficients involved.

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[tex]\psi(x)=\frac{3}{5}\chi_{1}(x)+\frac{4}{5}\chi_{3}(x)[/tex]

Both [tex]\chi_{1}(x) \chi_{3}(x)[/tex] are normalized energy eigenfunctions of the ground and second excited states respectivley. I need to find the 'wavefunction in the energy representation'


The Attempt at a Solution



I can find the expectation value of the energy but what is the wavefunction in the energy representation?
 
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It looks like it is given in the energy representation already. Except I'd write it as:

[tex]\left|\psi\right> = \frac{3}{5}\left|E_1\right>+\frac{4}{5}\left|E_3\right>[/tex]
 
I'm not so sure. I think what they are after is [tex]\psi(E)[/tex] i.e. a function of energy. I suppose in analogy with [tex]\psi(x) = \left<x|\psi\right>[/tex] it would be [tex]\psi(E) = \left<E|\psi\right>[/tex]. Completeness of states could be of help. I suspect you should get delta functions.
 
phsopher said:
I'm not so sure. I think what they are after is [tex]\psi(E)[/tex] i.e. a function of energy. I suppose in analogy with [tex]\psi(x) = \left<x|\psi\right>[/tex] it would be [tex]\psi(E) = \left<E|\psi\right>[/tex]. Completeness of states could be of help. I suspect you should get delta functions.
I wouldn't have thought of that, but yeah, that might be it.
 
My guess at what they want: (I think it's the same as what Phsopher said, but possibly a bit more intuitive)

By completeness, you can represent any wave-function:

[tex]\Psi (x) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} c_n\psi_n(x)[/tex]

Where the [tex]\psi_n[/tex] represent energy eigenfunctions. The energy representation of the wave function would probably then just be the coefficients [tex]c_n[/tex] at different energies. The probabilities of finding a specific energy would be [tex]|c_n|^2[/tex]. This is a bit weird, because it's not any real function that I can think of (dirac deltas can't really be squared properly...as far as I know...so I don't think ).

I'm sort of stumped on this one too!

EDIT:

Oh, I just thought, maybe instead of using Dirac Deltas, you can use Kronecker deltas...

Perhaps:

[tex]\Psi(E) = \frac{3}{5}\delta_{E, E_1} + \frac{4}{5}\delta_{E, E_3}[/tex]

Not 100% on this though.
 
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